flameangel88
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Chris,
I was looking at some old pictures and realize the first Venustus I got back in Sep also has the yellow crossing over the other side. Unfortunately it only lasted 3 weeks in QT.
Centropyge Venustus
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Chris,
I was looking at some old pictures and realize the first Venustus I got back in Sep also has the yellow crossing over the other side. Unfortunately it only lasted 3 weeks in QT.
cortez marine
In Memoriam
The damage from exploratory surgery with an old needle in vain attempt to solve the decompression problem is the quick-temporary fix to get the fish sold in Manila.
Screeners in Manila are city people who look for aesthetics to choose fishes to buy. They look for pefect fins and buy pretty fishes with nice fins.
The secondary infections that often arise later begin on the inside where the damage is not so apparent.
Days later the fish get exported and arrive clean as a whistle. This is because they have not eaten a thing for a week at this point.
Once in America, they progress thru the system and the race is on to sell it before it becomes visably thin and unsaleable..
The fishes survival instincts may push it to sample food and perhaps ingest it...but sadly, at the same time, the budding infection from the inside is working against it.
The infection may even be amplified by food interference. The fish may then stop attempts to feed.
Then before long you hear the age old hobbyists lament...
"He looked good and then just died for no reason.!"
The lucky ones may be the ones that were collected shallower, suffered less holes in the gut from needles, and received less of a cyanide dose.
So like blueface angels and majestics.which are nearly all caught with cyanide...enough survive to prime the pump and keep people trying.
Every species has stories of its running the guantlet to market. This tale of the venusta is but one.
Steve
Screeners in Manila are city people who look for aesthetics to choose fishes to buy. They look for pefect fins and buy pretty fishes with nice fins.
The secondary infections that often arise later begin on the inside where the damage is not so apparent.
Days later the fish get exported and arrive clean as a whistle. This is because they have not eaten a thing for a week at this point.
Once in America, they progress thru the system and the race is on to sell it before it becomes visably thin and unsaleable..
The fishes survival instincts may push it to sample food and perhaps ingest it...but sadly, at the same time, the budding infection from the inside is working against it.
The infection may even be amplified by food interference. The fish may then stop attempts to feed.
Then before long you hear the age old hobbyists lament...
"He looked good and then just died for no reason.!"
The lucky ones may be the ones that were collected shallower, suffered less holes in the gut from needles, and received less of a cyanide dose.
So like blueface angels and majestics.which are nearly all caught with cyanide...enough survive to prime the pump and keep people trying.
Every species has stories of its running the guantlet to market. This tale of the venusta is but one.
Steve
jhawkor
New member
Great post, thanks for the info!:thumbsup:
flameangel88
New member
Steve,
Thanks for the info. It's really a shame this practice hasn't changed over time but I guess we are guilty on keeping this practice ongoing by continuing to purchase them.
Kevin
On a high note--since moving him to the DT I can already tell he grew.
Thanks for the info. It's really a shame this practice hasn't changed over time but I guess we are guilty on keeping this practice ongoing by continuing to purchase them.
Kevin
On a high note--since moving him to the DT I can already tell he grew.
roktsintst
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Does Anyone Else have a Venusta???
Overboard
Premium Member
I recently acquired a small Venustus from a LFS. I watched in the store for about three weeks before purchasing it. It seemed to be healthy and I had them feed it mysis before taking it home. I kept it in quarantine for about 6 weeks before moving it to a modest display tank with a pair of flame wrasses and a tailspot blenny. It eats live brine very well, but only looks at frozen mysis now. It probably knows I will break down and feed it the live brine eventually. It constantly picks at the live rock, but ignores the LPS and SPS. It is active and fairly bold.
I think the small size has helped the fish acclimate well so far. I sure hope it was not a cyanide collected fish. I cannot detect any pucture marks and there has been no sign of any infection. It did not require any medication while in quarantine.
It is still too early to claim success with this fish, but hopefully it is on the right track. They are truly a beautiful fish.
Mark
I think the small size has helped the fish acclimate well so far. I sure hope it was not a cyanide collected fish. I cannot detect any pucture marks and there has been no sign of any infection. It did not require any medication while in quarantine.
It is still too early to claim success with this fish, but hopefully it is on the right track. They are truly a beautiful fish.
Mark
flameangel88
New member
Mark,
Try mixing NLS, ON and Hikari pellets together and alternate between live food. My Venustus loves pellets after weaning him into it..
Kevin
Try mixing NLS, ON and Hikari pellets together and alternate between live food. My Venustus loves pellets after weaning him into it..
Kevin
ironwill723
Well-known member
I have been looking for another one for months now. If anyone knows where I can pick one up please PM me.
jnc914
Active member
Steve- Very informative post that definitely clears up alot of questions regarding the long term survivability of this fish. I have long wanted to keep a pair, but would always get spooked after reading about people's experiences with them. I have tried multiple attempts to keep the Multibarred angel, which is very similar to the Venustus and have had the same results with it as others have had with their Venustus. All the Multibarred angels (3 total) that I have attempted to keep looked extremely healthy and ate for me. However 3-6 months later they would just die for no apparent reason. Do you know if Multibarred angels are collected the same way? Its a shame because both the Venustus and Multibarred angels are such beautiful fish,but just almost next to impossible to keep long term.
hreef
Member
Hello Kevin and Mark,
Mark I do not know if you remember me but I got a coral from you many years ago! It's been a long time. When I saw Overboard....I said I know that name!
My name is Holly and I still have that coral...I included a pic.
Here is a pic I took yesterday, my venustus is doing great, I have had him since June. Seems the tail spot is a good friend for our Venustus!
I have seen many variations of the yellow striation. Kevin provided me with great info on this fish....mine did go thru the decompression period...and it lasted a good 3 weeks or more. After that...all ok. Eats the PE Mysis, Ocean Nutrition Flake 2 food...the micro pellets as well.
Holly/Daniel....as you know me Kevin!
The coral below the Tennenti Tang is the one I got from you Mark.
Mark I do not know if you remember me but I got a coral from you many years ago! It's been a long time. When I saw Overboard....I said I know that name!
My name is Holly and I still have that coral...I included a pic.
Here is a pic I took yesterday, my venustus is doing great, I have had him since June. Seems the tail spot is a good friend for our Venustus!
I have seen many variations of the yellow striation. Kevin provided me with great info on this fish....mine did go thru the decompression period...and it lasted a good 3 weeks or more. After that...all ok. Eats the PE Mysis, Ocean Nutrition Flake 2 food...the micro pellets as well.
Holly/Daniel....as you know me Kevin!
The coral below the Tennenti Tang is the one I got from you Mark.
Overboard
Premium Member
Thanks Kevin, but can you please help me with the initials? I am not sure I know NLS and ON. I want to try your approach.
Thanks,
Mark
roktsintst
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New Life Spectrum
Ocean Nutrition
Ocean Nutrition
Overboard
Premium Member
flameangel88
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Gasman--sorry to hear of your loss. You had one beautiful Venustus and your picture really show it.
Jason--I would like to add Colin's angel to your list of problem along with the Multibarred and Venustus angels. I'd 3 Colin's and 3 Venustus in 2008 and they died in very similar fashion.
Ryan--thanks for clearing up the initials.
Mark--when I QT fish I don't discriminate and feed literally everything (on a rotation basis) till I see them nip on something. One thing I've seen more often than not is new fish usually take (nip/spit) small size food first, such as brine, pieces out of Marine Cuisine before they take mysis. The last couple of months I've had very good fortune of getting the new Venustus, Regal and Goldflake angel eating mostly pellets.
Holly--the username was familiar but I couldn't connect the name till the end of your post. Very happy to see your Venustus doing so well. I haven't seen mine eat PE Mysis yet but neither has mine Flameangels. Look forward to seeing your future updates.
Kevin
Jason--I would like to add Colin's angel to your list of problem along with the Multibarred and Venustus angels. I'd 3 Colin's and 3 Venustus in 2008 and they died in very similar fashion.
Ryan--thanks for clearing up the initials.
Mark--when I QT fish I don't discriminate and feed literally everything (on a rotation basis) till I see them nip on something. One thing I've seen more often than not is new fish usually take (nip/spit) small size food first, such as brine, pieces out of Marine Cuisine before they take mysis. The last couple of months I've had very good fortune of getting the new Venustus, Regal and Goldflake angel eating mostly pellets.
Holly--the username was familiar but I couldn't connect the name till the end of your post. Very happy to see your Venustus doing so well. I haven't seen mine eat PE Mysis yet but neither has mine Flameangels. Look forward to seeing your future updates.
Kevin
AngelsAnonymous
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There was one at my LFS that I would have gotten a discount on and it would have been around $80 if I remember correctly. The fish never ate for weeks it was there and eventually died I am assuming. Good thing I waited to see how it was.
