check this out; poor thing, :-(

I bought a dyed coral when first starting up the reef tank, very unpleasant experience! (Didn'g get it from this ebay seller) It lasted for a little while then, slumped away...

Here's my old thread...scroll down towards the bottom to see pics of how it was 100% confirmed dyed:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=596675&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

Yea it sucks first starting out and wanting to get the brightest and easiest thing to keep, and then having to watch out for dyed ones...well, live and learn in this hobby!
 
thats so way sad! well i sure hope more ppl out there learn about things like this from other's mistakes and dont fall for these scams!
 
i sent him a email telling him i was not in favor of his trading practices he wrote me back i thought i would share it with the rest of the class

Ashley

hi
> i like your site it very nice and i am sure your stock is first rate. i
> noticed however your ebay dyed coral bright fushia pink hairy leather
> coral.besides the moral issues about dyed corals which i am sure you are
> aware ,there is another one that being you did not state that it is dyed.
> I am sure you would not want to take advange of a newbie.
> As for me because you do sell dyed corals i will not buy from you until
> you stop selling these items since when does gods creature need dye to
> make them beautiful.
> with respect
> Ashley







HELLO:) THANKS FOR HAVING SOME RESPECT IN SHARING YOUR OPION
WITHOUT BEING OVERLY RUDE. .
IM NOT TRYING TO MAKE A SELL TO YOU WITH THIS STATEMENT, BECAUSE I
WOULDN'T SELL TO YOU EITHER UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF YOUR DISPOTION.
HOWEVER I WOULD LIKE TO EASE YOUR MIND A BIT IF THAT IS POSSIBLE WITH
THE PRE FORMED JUDGEMENTS THAT YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS ? HAVE PASSED.
THE LETTERS DO NOT SWAY ME. ONLY BECAUSE YOUR CORRECT WE DO SELL
HIGH QUALITY LIVE STOCK FISH. CORALS ETC. WE GIVE EXTREME CUSTOMER
SUPPORT ON ORDERS, AND ON A PERSONAL BASIS . SOMETIMES WE SPEND
HRS ON THE PHONE WITH PEOPLE WHO JUST NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE TO LISTEN.
AND THIS HAPPENS THROUGH THIS BUSINESS. AS FOR THIS ONE CORAL THAT
EVERY ONE IS HAVING A STROKE OVER :) I WILL NOT REPLY TO ANYONE
ELSE BECAUSE OF THERE LACK OF RESPECT. HOWEVER R SINCE YOU TOOK THE
TIME TO EMAIL POLITE YOUR OPION. ILL EMAIL BACK! :) THIS
PARTICULAR TYPE OF CORAL WE GET IN. I HAVE KEPT FOR OVER A YR
SO FAR AND NO COLOR FADING AND NO DEATH. I ALSO HAVE SOLD SOME TO
RETURN CUSTOMERS WHO STILL BUY OTHER CORALS AND STILL HAVE THIS AND
IT IS DOING JUST FINE AND STILL VERY PRETTY. WE DON'T HAVE A LIST THAT
SAYS DYED? IT JUST SAYS PURPLE HAIRY FINGER LEATHER. . IN MY
TANK, IN MY CUSTOMERS TANK IT LIVES AND DOES WELL. IM SORRY BUT YOU
GUYS ARE WRONG. MAYBE IT IS DYED IF IT IS I DIDN'T DO IT. AND IF IT
IS IT IT = MUST BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS
DESCRIBE IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I WOULD NOT HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD JUST DIE , I HAVE MOSTLY REPEAT
CUSTOMERS. WERE NOT A HUGE COMPANY. ONE THING WERE GOOD AT IS
GETTING RARE ITEMS AND SHIPPING TOP QUALITY AND HAND PICKED SPECIAL
ORDER ITEMS, AND GUESS WHAT WE GET TONS OF REPEAT CUSTOMERS.
THEY WOULD NOT COME BACK IF THERE STUFF DIED .
SHORTLY AFTER BUYING. YOU GUYS ARE JUST WRONG WRONG WRONG.
I KNOW I HAVE KEPT ONE FOR MY SELF IT DOES FINE. THE RIDICUOULDS
EMAIL I HAVE GOT ARE JUST INSANE. SO I JUST DISREGARD THEM UNLESS
I FIND THEM OVER THE LINE ENOUGH TO REPORT TO OFFICIALS FOR
HARASSMENT.
ANYWAY YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPION AND I SURELY APPRECIATE THAT YOU MADE
AN EFFORT TO DISAGREE AND YET DO IT WITH SOME RESPECT OF ONE
ADULT TO ANOTHER . THANK YOU. WE DON'T DYE ANYTHING, WE DON'T BUY
ANYTHING LABELED DYED, AND AS FOR THIS CORAL I KNOW FOR A FACT IT
DOES WELL OR I WOULD NOT SELL IT. AND IT WOULD NOT BE BECAUSE OF BUNCH
OF PEOPLE SENDING HATE MAIL WERE TRYING TO BROW BEAT ME INTO STOPPING?
THAT'S SILLY. IF I THOUGHT IT WOULD DIE SHORTLY AFTER PURCHASE I
WOULDN'T SELL IT. AS I SAID IT DOESN'T SAY IT IS DYED AND IF IT IS
IT MUST BE SOME RARE EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT TRULY DOES WELL. IM NOT
TRYING TO TALK YOU INTO OR OUT OF ANYTHING. IM JUST RESPONDING BACK .:)
WE TALK WITH CUSTOMERS THROUGH EMAIL AND EVEN ON THE PHONE AND WE COULD
CARE LESS IF THEY BUY ANYTHING IF THEY NEED TO TALK OR NEED PRAYER WERE
THERE. WITHOUGHT TRYING TO MAKE A SALE. WE DO NOT MAKE A
FORTUNE OFF ONE CORAL AND IT IS NOT OUR WHOLE MARKETING LINE. IT
TRULY IS RIDICULOUS THE JUDGMENT PASSED ON PEOPLE THEY DO NOT KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT. THEY TRY HARD TO SLANDER , SLAM, AND DESTROY OR
EVEN SENDING PURE HATE MAIL AND SOME WACKO MISSION TALKING TO US
LIKE THEY HAVE NO RESPECT AT ALL LIKE THERE JUDGE , JURY AND GOD.
THEMSELVES . YOU DIDN'T DO THIS BUT SOME OTHERS DID. I FIND IT VERY
ODD. JUST AS YOU DO, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OPION BUT YOU CANT GO A ROUND
TALKING TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT OR WRITING HARASSING LETTERS OR TRYING TO
SMASH A PERSON GOOD NAME. LIKE SOME OTHER EMAILS I HAVE HAD. NOT
YOURS. :)
I DON'T SEE ANYONE TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW MANY SATISFIED CUSTOMERS WE
HAVE ? OR HOW MANY WE MINSTER TO WITHOUT A SALE! OR HOW MANY
RARE ITEMS AND CUSTOM ORDERS WE HAVE SENT WITH VERY HAPPY CUSTOMERS
!
I DON'T SEE ANY ONE BEING GLAD WERE NOT AQUACON WHO DOES RIP YOU OFF
AND NOT CARE ABOUT THERE PRODUCT OR CUSTOMERS. IF YOUR PART OF THE
CREW THAT IS TOGETHER THAN I GUESS YOU CAN PASS ALONG THE INFO. I
HAVE BEEN FORWARDING EMAIL TO EBAY AND TO THE OFFICIALS THAT THEY
DIRECTED ME TO . AND I HAVE ALSO SENT THE EMAILS TO THE ISP
PROVIDERS AS EBAY INSTRUCTED ME TO AS WELL BECAUSE IT IS MORE THAN
AN OPION IT IS HARASSMENT.
YOU ARE NOT THAT CASE. YOUR STATED AN OPION CAREFULLY:)
ANYWAY THAT'S MY COMMENT ON THIS.
SORRY YOU FEEL UPSET. WE ARE NO SCAM ARTIST I DON'T FEEL BAD THE LETTERS
ARE NOT SWAYING ME AND I DON'T TRY TO BUY DYED CORALS AND I DON'T
SELL ANYTHING I THINK WILL DIE SHORTLY AFTER A CUSTOMERS RECEIVES. IT.
IT IS OK IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT IM NOT REALLY TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU
BUT I DO HOPE THIS EASES YOUR MIND .SOME.
 
MAYBE IT IS DYED IF IT IS I DIDN'T DO IT. AND IF IT
IS IT IT = MUST BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE WHAT YOU GUYS
DESCRIBE IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

To me that seems like a very long email which didn't say very much except he doesnt care what anyone thinks and doesn't see anything wrong with selling the coral if it wasn't specifically labeled 'DYED" when he bought it from the supplier....But then he says even if it were dyed this type of coral does fine with it (if I'm translating correctly)!?

(and he implies stuff like this doesnt happen (dying corals); it definately does ; see above link)

He's not going to stop selling things like this, its obvious.

Just make mental note not to buy from his company..... like all businesses, people have different ethics and it's obvious how this ebayer approaches dyed corals.....
 
Hmmm.. that's just depressing. Because the dealer doesn't list it as dyed, it's not dyed to him (and if he is ok with that, then what other lies is he ok with). He needs to see those articles and know the truth. Pretty sad. Maybe he just doesn't get it? Did anyone send those articles?

I know vendors who will give you the shirt off their backs and go out of their way to please people, but they also sell poached corals. Being a "good" vendor doesn't mean you can be a cheat occasionally.
 
In his only defense I might say that he may not have known it was really dyed when he got it from the supplier HOWEVER since he is now notified that his coral might be and probably is dyed; he chooses to deny that this happens and defends himself selling it instead of trying to investigate it further to see if it really is dyed or not. That I think is the worst part of it!!!

When I notified my seller of the dyed coral I bought last year, I really don't think he knew it was dyed. I pointed him over to the RC thread and he refunded my money , apologized , and asked if he could use the pictures I took to inform his supplier and use for his records....that's the right way to handle it :)

This ebayer juse does it all wrong!
 
Well..I stopped by 3 LFS today, and every one of them has dyed corals. 1 of them is really well known for having exotic corals too, but I know their business ethics are not the best. We may know that it's dyed, they may know that it's dyed, but the noob hobbyist will only think "WOW, what a beautiful cheap coral". In a way, if corals and fish didn't die, there wouldn't be any money to be made by LFS once all our tanks get saturated and filled w/ corals. Dry goods last a very long time, with maybe 40% mark up in profit, whereas livestock will carry at least 200% profit.
 
People buy dyed fish by the 100s...why stop there? Why not dye inverts, too. :(

Come see my Yellow crabs - not the mean red or blue ones. Will look extra pretty in snail shells after it eats them. :)
 
Here is my statement to him/her:

Next time you dye a coral and try to sell it for a lot of money make sure you also dye the base. I hope no one actually buys these fakes you sell!!!!!!!! I might report you to EBAY for fraud........

I hope he/she reports me for harrasment!!!!!!LOL
 
Hi, do you have any that are dyed really bright orange, yellow, purple or red for sale of this same type of coral? The dyed bright pink ones just don't do anything for me. Let me know if you have any up for auction or if you have any you want to sell and we can talk. Thanks, Jeff

This is what I am waiting for a response on from the seller. You think he'll bite? Can't wait to see his/her response.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6881893#post6881893 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Freed
Hi, do you have any that are dyed really bright orange, yellow, purple or red for sale of this same type of coral? The dyed bright pink ones just don't do anything for me. Let me know if you have any up for auction or if you have any you want to sell and we can talk. Thanks, Jeff

This is what I am waiting for a response on from the seller. You think he'll bite? Can't wait to see his/her response.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6881318#post6881318 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RBU1
Here is my statement to him/her:

Next time you dye a coral and try to sell it for a lot of money make sure you also dye the base. I hope no one actually buys these fakes you sell!!!!!!!! I might report you to EBAY for fraud........

I hope he/she reports me for harrasment!!!!!!LOL


Did you guys really send him this stuff? If so, what did you get in return? :smokin:
 
wow, look at what I just got back from him, and I wuote:

"maybe you should try live aquaria and all the huge pet store because from what i hear the yellow cup coral is dyed and does not come in this color. have you tried stalking all the other pet stores as well? every store i know of sells the yellow cup coral and other corals. i have no idea which corals are or aren't dyed. except the few i have herd through a grape vine about. ort read something on. if i thought a coral would die on me or my customer i wouldn't sell it. but the yellow cup coral and this leather live i know it for a fact..
not that i owe you any explanation im trying to make a point better waste some more time because you have a lot of stores to hit. everyone i know of sells at least one coral that is dyed. they dot list it on wholesale list we have no idea unless we do extensive research. and if your freaking out this much and don't mind law suits and harassment charges then you might as well hit all the pet stores maybe even your local stores because most everyone has something that either was purchased knowingly or unknowly that is dyed from overseas. "

doesnt sound like he feels too bad for selling his dyed and soon to be dead corals huh???
 
I just emailed him to see what he says about coral I said beuty of a coral but never seen one so bright is it dyed
 
So now he is saying that it is a common practice to sell dyed corals as they will survive and do fine!???

In other words, and in short, he is admitting that he doesn't mind selling corals that are dyed.

And to top it off insinuates law suits over people calling him on it....and it just shows how much lower he can be..

I really hope people read this and remember who not to buy from...just terrible.
 
he will probably just change the selling name on ebay and continue to sell low quality stuff to gullable people
 
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