closed loop help?????

sinaloa213

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im thinking of getting a bigger tank and ive heard good things of closed loop systems
how exactly do they work?
i know it give more water movement and water flow and there are holes drilled in the bottom of the tank
wouldnt the sand fall into the holles or kick sand up?
is there any diagrams or pics i can see of this system?
 
In a nutshell it adds more flow in your tank. The main plus to adding a closed loop is that you can have more controllable flow nozzles without having a ton of powerheads in your display to clutter things up.

Some people drill the outlets into the back of glass, I think Atlantis aquarium uses one.

But basicly its a mongo pump pulling water through a drain cut into it, usually in the back glass and pulls it out and divides it among either a tree of flex tubing or pvc which is then branched off to individual nozzles, simmillar to the return on a AGA overflow........there are a TON of design variations and some are specific to each tanks individual flow needs.

If you are getting into primarily SPS, you know the value of needing flow where you exactly need it to be and could see the benifits of having say a half dozen or so more line locs to accomplish that instead of a bunch of clunky powerheads.......

I think Pam? has one of the first one I saw on MARS from last years frag swap......I believe it was a simple cage with 1/2 or 3/4 PVC placed inside the tank edges and corners for a clean installation with 45s on the top giving flow from all four directions.

Maybe she will see this and post a pic of her tank to show you......

But in the end there is no set way in stone to go about doing it......just that the flow in = flow out

at the very least its a beautiful tank that needs to be seen more often!!!!
 
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Here are a couple of designs I sketched up. I would route the horizontal outlets behind the live rock to stir up the detritus. I would use 2 SCWD devices and 2 MAGx pumps. I took my initial idea from Melvs.

All over the top and not through the glass.

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John
 
so the bars on the bottom have holes with let water through?
anyobody know someone who would possibly install a whole closed loop system locally?
looks sort of confusing only cuz im new at this:D
 
Hear are some threads I was following a while back, But they show you how they installed closed loop systems in the tank.

to give you an idea....
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=681968&perpage=25&pagenumber=3

And this guy did a little different and was using a 8way water flow thru device ( for lack of the real name LOL)
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=696505&perpage=25&pagenumber=3

The links are the start of the photo progress for when they were doing the pipes.

Hope it helps.
 
sinaloa- do you have a glass tank or acrylic? Is tank empty or is it already set up? Let me know and i'll give you examples of a closed loop. I am in the process of installing my closed loop on my 200 gallon acrylic tank. Exterior mounted iwaki100 pump feed by two 1" pvc lines and 3 lines going back to tank. Of the three. one is a 30" spray bar with line locs at both ends while the other 2 inlets will be on each side shooting the length of tank. Let me know your setup..
 
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