Clown ID
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Jturner90g
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By the raised mouth I'd say Clarkii and not occilarious, they typically have a lower mouth that shows more prominent "œfrown" than a clarkii clown. Also the mouth is a lot lower in the jaw line.
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richard.volker
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Definitely a type of clarki. Sebae clowns are a morph of clarkis just like allardis or African clowns
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ThRoewer
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A. sebae does not belong to the same complex as A, clarkii but is rather closely related to A. polymnus.
Actually, genetic research has shown that none of the African clownfish (bicinctus, allardi, chrysogaster,...) are closely related to A. clarkii despite their similar looks. The closest relatives of clarkii are A. tricinctus and the tomato clowns (ephippium, melanopus, frenatus,...)
(from "Hybridisation and diversification in the adaptive radiation of clownfishes", Glenn Litsios and Nicolas Salamin
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richard.volker
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Very interesting thank you for this info. I always thought they were related based around looks and hosting preferences
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Mad Marine
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sorry the missing information re/ link is ************ and true-sebae-clownfish
Mad Marine
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ah - reef builders
ThRoewer
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Neither of those fish in that video is an A. sebae but more likely it is a pair of clarkiis. The different coloration of the tail fin is sex related with claekii from some locations.
A. sebae has a distinct body shape, more round in cross-section and elongated, but usually not as extreme as with A. polymnus. Also very typical for sebae is that the bar on the body is curved or slanted back and extends into the soft dorsal fin.
Adult A. sebae also never have a third band on the base of the tail fin (the third band is typical for A polymnus) and sebae have always a yellow tail fin.
Color forms of A. sebae:
A. polymnus (melanistic form):
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phender
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Agreed, both the clowns in that video are clarki clowns, just different color forms.
The clown in the OP is also a clarki clown. Sebae used to be the common name for clarkis in the aquarium trade for some reason, and it is still being used by some wholesalers and LFSs. It tends to create a lot of confusion especially since many wholesalers and collectors can't seem to tell the difference.
The clown in the OP is also a clarki clown. Sebae used to be the common name for clarkis in the aquarium trade for some reason, and it is still being used by some wholesalers and LFSs. It tends to create a lot of confusion especially since many wholesalers and collectors can't seem to tell the difference.
Mad Marine
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Thanks for your response. I agree, you are correct. It's tricky to ID Texas1977 fish, better photos would help.
ThRoewer
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The issue is mainly that it is still a juvenile. Clarkii and the clarkii-like members of the African clade have very similar coloration as juveniles. Time will probably tell what it is.
