Clownfish quarantine

[rockstarta78]

So I am finally ready to put fish in my tank. I have setup a hospital tank. I plan on treating all my fish for minimum of 4 weeks before putting it in the DT. My question is can clownfish be treated with Cupramine? Or should I go with Paraguard? I also plan on treating them with Prazipro. I can't find any info on which fish will tolerate copper and which fish won't.

Thanks for your help

 

[ThRoewer]

Any copper product is just flat out a bad idea! It is a immunosuppressant that may actually aide some parasites and doesn't even treat the biggest threat to clownfish: Brooklynella

So the most important thing with clownfish is to give them a formalin bath against possible Brooklynella infections before they even go into the quarantine tank.

After that you could do TTM with additional formalin baths or just observe for 2 months.
Another option would be 2 weeks of Chloroquine Phosphate (NLS Ick-Shield Powder) against possible Amyloodinium or Cryptocaryon infections and then 6 to 8 weeks observation.

 

[mr9iron]

Any copper product is just flat out a bad idea! It is a immunosuppressant that may actually aide some parasites and doesn't even treat the biggest threat to clownfish: Brooklynella

So the most important thing with clownfish is to give them a formalin bath against possible Brooklynella infections before they even go into the quarantine tank.

After that you could do TTM with additional formalin baths or just observe for 2 months.
Another option would be 2 weeks of Chloroquine Phosphate (NLS Ick-Shield Powder) against possible Amyloodinium or Cryptocaryon infections and then 6 to 8 weeks observation.

I have been giving my fish formalin dips before going into the QT tank. Do you prophalatically treat your fish with CP? I too think copper sucks, and I don't like doing hypo either.

 

[rockstarta78]

Thank you for the info. Now I need to figure out formalin bath.

 

[ThRoewer]

... Do you prophalatically treat your fish with CP? I too think copper sucks, and I don't like doing hypo either.

I don't do prophylactic CP, only when needed.
Though I found that clownfish do best if given an anemone as soon as possible.

Thank you for the info. Now I need to figure out formalin bath.

Not much to figure out: 20 drops (=1 ml) formalin 37-40% per gallon (US) of saltwater. Bath time 30 to 50 minutes.

I use Formalin MS from FishVet - you find it at Amazon.com

 

[rockstarta78]

Thank you for the info. So no paraguard or cupramine I guess. How about Prazi

 

[ThRoewer]

Personally I would only do prazi if the fish show signs of an internal infection (white stringy poo, constantly poor appetite, weight loss despite eating well,...)

 

[rockstarta78]

Will it cause issue if Prazi is used as a precaution? BTW thank you for answering all these noob questions

 

[ThRoewer]

I've seen some posts here where reportedly some fish stopped eating. Though it seems they started eating again once the treatment was over.

I never had much issues with my anemonefish having internal parasites. The big concern with them is Brooklynella and maybe Amyloodinium. Even Cryptocaryon is a rather rare occurrence in my experience.

Other fish like for example all the Valenciennea species are notorious for intestinal infections and should always be treated, even if not showing symptoms.

 

[rockstarta78]

Alright thanks for the info.

 

[rockstarta78]

I've seen some posts here where reportedly some fish stopped eating. Though it seems they started eating again once the treatment was over.

I never had much issues with my anemonefish having internal parasites. The big concern with them is Brooklynella and maybe Amyloodinium. Even Cryptocaryon is a rather rare occurrence in my experience.

Other fish like for example all the Valenciennea species are notorious for intestinal infections and should always be treated, even if not showing symptoms.

I was not going to get a clownfish. But my 6yr old wants a black clown and the three year old wants the true percula (for him is nemo). And their mother is all for it. So gotta make them happy and get 2 different clowns. I guess time will tell how well these 2 will get along.

 

[ThRoewer]

I was not going to get a clownfish. But my 6yr old wants a black clown and the three year old wants the true percula (for him is nemo). And their mother is all for it. So gotta make them happy and get 2 different clowns. I guess time will tell how well these 2 will get along.

Assuming with black you mean a black ocellaris or an onyx percula they should get along as long as you get small individuals.

Just don't give in to the kids on adding a "Dory" later - it will just cause you headaches and ich issues.

 

[rockstarta78]

Oh mine is only 40g breeder. As much as I love tangs I am not adding any tangs in this tank.

 

[m0nkie]

I have no problem with Prazi for clowns... you should add more flow or bigger air pump to make up for the loss of o2.

I do have a lot of problem using Prazi on wrasse for some reason... though this doesn't seem to effect everyone..

just be careful using any type of medication.

 

[rockstarta78]

I have no problem with Prazi for clowns... you should add more flow or bigger air pump to make up for the loss of o2.

I do have a lot of problem using Prazi on wrasse for some reason... though this doesn't seem to effect everyone..

just be careful using any type of medication.

I am adding a HOB filter and an air stone as well. Was thinking about starting with Prazipro before everything else. Good or bad idea?

 

[ThRoewer]

I would do it later and first see if they have anything more urgent that may need treatment.

 

[rockstarta78]

I would do it later and first see if they have anything more urgent that may need treatment.

Ok thank you.

 

[m0nkie]

Prazi does kill the apetite a little.. so i would wait to see if the fish is eating first

 

[rockstarta78]

Prazi does kill the apetite a little.. so i would wait to see if the fish is eating first

I am going to feed the first day. Let the fish settle in for a day before starting any treatment.

 

[rockstarta78]

But Prazi is the first thing I think I wool start with.