Collecting angelfish west of Key West with a legend

Heh nice pics Copps, i do think the diving Africaoffroad(Craig) could offer up Durban ways would definitely appeal to you as would our Kingi Angelfish among others! The bull sharks /zambezi's we call them here, are also to be respected in those waters, but you are an accomplished diver and i would love to join you and Craig on a collecting expedition if you do get on the Imacsa train it, would be awesome!

You are a brave man to swim with Tigers they can be very dangerous too as they eat almost anything, i have dived only once on purpose with Great White Sharks and that was over 15 years ago at the very place they breach in Gansbaai about 5kms out at seal island in 8 metres of water and we were doing what was to become a regular tourist event called cage diving, although back then it was the first prototype cage and it was essentially chicken wire and wasnt going to stop the sharks if they really wanted in.

The one thing you quickly realize is that you aren't on top of the food chain anymore when you see them in their home environment ,an awe inspiring fish(can you imagine what its ancestor must have been like, i have a couple of Megalodon teeth as big as my hand) and not something i really want to see without some form of protection, quite a few attacks have happened the last couple of years and i think at least 4 people have been killed and eaten in the last 5 years if i am not mistaken around Cape Town.In December i dived the Seal colony around Robberg in Plettenberg bay and the Dive boat skipper gave us some interesting info about how the seals react When a great white approaches the colony , generally the seals will actually mob the shark in an attempt to drive it away from the colony and their pups. The sharks therefore prefer to ambush lone seals which have to run the guantlet between the colony and the open ocean to feed, It gave us only some comfort on the seal dive knowing we were diving with the food ;)

Our waters are pretty chilly around 12-14 celsius on the Atlantic side an around 18-22 celsius on the Indian side. Durban and Aliwal shoal areas are more likely close to 22-25 celsius on average depending on the season.

I would love to dive the places you have though and to catch your own fish , the only place i have done that and caught my own fish was years ago in Mauritius and Comoros.

I would love to dive the Indian Ocean side of your country... not just for Apolemichthys kingi, but to see the amazing mix of tropical species that have made it there... In regards to bull sharks you are correct... they are to be respected. I grew up here in the US in the state of New Jersey, and traveled to the shore quite often. In 1916 there were four people killed in one summer there by sharks... dubbed the "Jersey Maneater"... which was this inspiration for the book and movie "Jaws"... the sharks are now believed to have been bull sharks... you must respect a shark that can travel 2500 miles up the Amazon River! Fortunately when I studied in the Amazon we were more worried about the candiru catfish...

I feel much more comfortable in the water with sharks when I am Scuba diving. Even snorkeling I feel better... when I am able to see the water... I always felt most vulnerable when I was body boarding growing up... and statistics would show that to be warranted... cage diving with white sharks would be something though... what a rush that must be!

While you would love to dive the places I have, I would love to dive Mauritius and the Comoros like you have! The grass is always greener it seems... :)

Awesome John! While you where in Marathon did you happen to stop by the Turtle Hospital? My buddy runs the facility down there.

Nope... Even with no stops it was an 18 hour day for me...

wow! how did you catch so many fish with just nets? i thought they swim fast

While the fish are faster, you need to be smarter. Anyone who tries collecting just once will realize how tough it is and have a new respect for fish catchers! You exert yourself more than on any normal dive... try running a few hundred yards in a sprint and then breathing through a regulator! :)
 
So amazing... sometimes we just wonder that someone who loves fishes like us, just sit comfortably at his precious living room chair sofa waiting for the next call ... Really appreciate your spirit for looking for knowledge ...for your adventures and for sharing with us your life.
Really amazing... sometimes we just smile...because we can understand your passion !

Congrats John !
 
Hey John, I bet when you go collecting, word gets out and those fish just jump into your nets for a chance to live in your beautiful reef tanks.

That Bucket O' Angels was a cool shot! The lovely queen angel is one of my favorites too and I hope to have a tank large enough for a pair in the future.

Glad you had such a fun day.:)

Karen
 
so,no one else want to see those photos....?:(

I believe what I'll do is do another thread on that fish... and Genicanthus personatus in general... Ironically the one person in the world to have successfully captively spawned and raised this species... or any Genicanthus for that matter... and just the second person in the world to do ANY angel... posted just after you... until then I'll give you this shot or a Genicanthus personatus... one of just four that settled out (was it four Karen?)... this one was preserved by the great Karen Brittain and kept at her home... until last year when we hung out at her house and she GAVE it to me! I am the proud owner of this angelfish history... and this fish will live on with its story being told for decades hopefully... Thank you Karen! :) In the new thread on personatus I could elaborate more... but until then meet my Genicanthus personatus... complete of course with my rental car key for size reference... :)

Genibabe1.jpg


Read more about some of Karen's recent work here in this article I wrote...

http://glassbox-design.com/2010/captive-bred-amphiprion-latezonatus/

Hey John, I bet when you go collecting, word gets out and those fish just jump into your nets for a chance to live in your beautiful reef tanks.

That Bucket O' Angels was a cool shot! The lovely queen angel is one of my favorites too and I hope to have a tank large enough for a pair in the future.

Glad you had such a fun day.:)

Karen

Get ready to blush Karen... ladies and gentlemen we have a legend alert! The great Karen Brittain! :)

Oh and Karen I agree... So Frank won the race on Centropyge and Apolemichthys... you got Genicanthus... I believe you should get Holacanthus... :D I hope all is well in paradise out there... and thanks again for Genibabe junior... :)

And for all... here's a shot of the girls in QT... :)

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Copps
 
What I want to know, is how you have time to have aquariums at your home? You never seem to be there! LOL
You are living the dream.
And BTW, and I'm asking this seriously, is that a a real Tiger breaching? I've never heard of Galcerdo cuveri (sic)doing that. I thought it was a White shark, but that head was square!

Sincerely,
Matt
 
Nice story
And good luck with the new queens

How is you flame angel hybrid doing

You saw them here didn't you Yuri? Both are doing well... kicking it with a true Cebuan flame angel...

http://reefkeeping.com/joomla/index.php/current-issue/article/76-tank-of-the-month



What I want to know, is how you have time to have aquariums at your home? You never seem to be there! LOL
You are living the dream.
And BTW, and I'm asking this seriously, is that a a real Tiger breaching? I've never heard of Galcerdo cuveri (sic)doing that. I thought it was a White shark, but that head was square!

Sincerely,
Matt

Thanks Matt... the breaching shark is just a chubby great white... :) but still rather agile... sort of like an offensive lineman I guess...
 
thank you very much john..:beer:

meanwhile,is there any news on RCT,you told some months ago that THE MAN(your friend Frank) is back...
 
John,

I finally realized it was actually a white shark 5 minutes ago. LOL
The jaws protruding at the seal kinda make the head look broader than it really is. And almost square, which is why I thought Tiger shark.
I'd love to see that in person myself! Must be breathtaking to see a breaching White. heck, even breaching dolphins are spectacular. A 1 ton shark, twice as much!
You are really making me want to dive darn you! To bad I have too many obligations. Which is why I have a reeftank to begin with..
Again: How do maintain those beautiful Reef Tanks when you seem to be all over the planet??

Sincerely,
Matt
 
John,

I finally realized it was actually a white shark 5 minutes ago. LOL
The jaws protruding at the seal kinda make the head look broader than it really is. And almost square, which is why I thought Tiger shark.
I'd love to see that in person myself! Must be breathtaking to see a breaching White. heck, even breaching dolphins are spectacular. A 1 ton shark, twice as much!
You are really making me want to dive darn you! To bad I have too many obligations. Which is why I have a reeftank to begin with..
Again: How do maintain those beautiful Reef Tanks when you seem to be all over the planet??

Sincerely,
Matt

he is lucky with wify part than most of the guys...men usually seem to loss all those shining faces after marriage...but seeing him in those photos,from a dull face 10 years ago he is now glowing...good wife makes all the diff....
i am not married yet;but seeing my buddies who are married,i can understand the apathy...:smokin:
 
What I want to know, is how you have time to have aquariums at your home? You never seem to be there! LOL
You are living the dream.
And BTW, and I'm asking this seriously, is that a a real Tiger breaching? I've never heard of Galcerdo cuveri (sic)doing that. I thought it was a White shark, but that head was square!

Sincerely,
Matt

That's a Great White, Carcharodon carcharias , the head got that shape cause the jaws are wide open, amazing leap , I was lucky enough to see it live in South Africa with a young specimen performing on a dead Tuna, the skipper didnt like that agressive behaviour and decided to move on, he was saying thats not normal for a great white.
We were lucky again cause we saw 7 Great White in that day incld a huge female.
My dream still is to dive with them out of the cage, but of course with all the chum that day anybody who'd try it will become the next meal.
The amount of chum they put to attracts the Sharks is seriously large.
 
Yes that is the one potter flame hybrid

The hybrid is actually a Potter's/ Fisher's hybrid... just the third known in history... the second is in my freezer after getting infected from where it was needled. The significance of this fish is not in its beauty, but in the fact that it is the only known dwarf angel hybrid between subgenera... potteri is in the Centropyge subgenus and fisheri is in Xiphypops... they are not closely related... and these are probably a result of "accidental hybridization", not active spawning between the two species...
 
It was great to finally meet you today in person, John. My family is planning another trip to the Keys (Key West) in June. Your pictures from your most recent Florida Keys dive trip are amazing. :thumbsup: For those keeping track, John's private collection of angelfish now exceeds over 40 angelfish!!!
 
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