Community Buyers & Sellers BEWARE !!!

Status
Not open for further replies.

CoralReefBoffin

New member
Mitch30111

Be weary of selling to, and for that matter buying from as well, Mitch

Individual has no integrity, whatsoever, and makes immature/petty, insulting demands at the very last minute after already finalizing the deal ... As if he is doing YOU a favor by selling him a practically brand new, high end piece of reefkeeping equipment for pennies on the dollar.

From my recent personal experience, he will likely leave you too hanging last minute after packaging up the equipment for him, canceling another out of state deal worth more money, etc ... And all in order to help out a local reefer !

Just wanted to save someone else the last minute headache, and/or financial loss in having to deal with a lowlife scumbag .. Our community is one of the best out there. No need to have people like this bringing anybody else nothing but hassles
 
Last edited:
Is he local? I have no experience with him, but I usually don't ship or even package anything unless payment is received. If he's local, I usually don't hold anything unless they are coming or set up a pick up date within a few days. There are plenty of flakes out there and you should not be obligated to hold anything.

If anyone lowballs you, you should not feel insulted. Its not that hard to say no... its not worth the stress. Just protect yourself and be a smart seller :)

Not defending him, but in general, things do come up in life and sometimes people need to back out of deals. No need for name calling.
 
Hey Dream54 ... Yes, he's local.

That's not how it happened, if your account was the reality of the situation I wouldn't have even thought twice about it. Would just say, sorry about your situation don't worry about it.

He was first to message, after initial post, stating he was in need of a chiller; yet was a lowball offer ... Said not interested, but if he would come up a bit I would like to help out a local reefer first and foremost. Even tho it meant less money for myself. Which, is not/wasn't the main goal ... Paying it forward a bit, and helping out someone local who shares our same passionate hobby was. I know firsthand how expensive/financially cumbersome it can be for some, and I've been a proponent of everyone in the hobby maintaining the best possible conditions for all the marine organisms we keep. A chiller in AZ helps out considerably with that.

The day after, I receive a full price offer from an out of state buyer. Instead of being self-centered about the money, I remessaged the local guy (mitch30111) back, and asked him are you positive you want to pass up this steal of a deal on a quality piece of the equipment you are currently in need of ... He stated its all he wanted to spend on it, despite the already great price. So, I messaged him back and offered a price in the middle of his offer and the full price out of state one. He agreed, fully, stated you have a deal, and we setup a exact date and time to meet 2-3 days later.

The night before, messageg him to ensure he was going to be there and set a location where to meet, which he again agreed to ... Then, comes back with, "I want to meet at a Starbucks", not the store I picked (same exact location/shopping center) lol ... Cool whatever guy. I agreed (said that's fine) and the conversation was finished, when I received another message from him a while afterwards, stating I was "required to bring a bucket of water, plumbing, and run it for him" (in a Starbucks parking lot) lol ! It went from you have a deal, let's meet up, to a immature/petty ego pull on his end at the last second ... Told the guy, I am far from someone who scams people, especially for a measly 180 bucks, and that its in pristine condition. The flipn guy is arguing his way out of a STEAL for a high-end piece of equipment, after I went out of my way to help him out and the deal was already finalized.

Messaged the clown back and provided these two options, "for 20 bucks more, on a already steal price, I would personally deliver it to him and he can do anything he would like with it, short of dismantling, OR "if he wanted to bring the bucket of water, 3/4" plumbing (which he would already need to run it on his system and is extremely inexpensive), and asked Starbucks to use their electrical outlet I have no issue setting it up and running it for him" ... Guy replies, "your place or figure something else out" ... No joke just as quoted.

Speaking of which, all his quotes are exactly as written as are mine with just the change from first person context/dialogue.

Now, I'm in the middle of moving everything to a new house, while also installing a new advanced/complex, XL system. So, told the guy, "my place doesn't have any plumbing supplies for it anymore I took it offline and packed it up for you already. The new chillers are not the same plumbing". Guy replies, "I want to see it running" ... Replied, "I've given you two very reasonable options for that already, and for just 20 bucks additional for gas I'll even come across the county and set it up for you personally ... Which would you like to do ? Up to you, it's cool with me whichever one".

* If there were all these demands, wouldn't you have the common courtesy to state them beforehand, or at the very least, respectfully/friendly ? He knew full well I gave up a full price offer for his lesser amount, in order to help a local reefer out ... After that offer was off the table, he pulled scumbag, petty/egotistical and frankly insulting moves when HE was the guy getting hooked up financially and otherwise.

Guy ignores me, so at this point I'm basically done with him and can see where this has gone and likely was going ever since I cancelled the full price offer to help him out ... So, I asked him, "how old are you" ... Not something I would normally do, but it was a warranted/reasonable question at that point. If he was as he sounded, some punk no integrity kid, I was going to cut my life losses of time and stress (during a hectic/stressful move) and tell him, based on his unreasonable actions I'm not interested in selling it to him any longer ... Didn't get to that point. After I asked his age, immediately after he demanded to come to my personal residence mind you, he stated, "I'm no longer interested. Thanks". And didn't even have the balls to answer his phone, as I wanted to hear what kind of person this was on the other end and give him a much needed lesson in common courtesy with people. Especially amongst our hobby community.

Anyways, that's the situation ... I got a bunch of stuff to do today and about to reach my destination/finish driving, but if Im in the wrong somehow, whatsoever, feel free to enlighten me ... Cause I don't see it. I see a immature, no integrity, petty/rude scumbag I had to come across at the least opportune timing, naturally. Think twice before dealing with this person, everyone. Have a great day/week !
 
Last edited:
There is a lot of buyers and sellers on here. I have dealt with mostly super cool down to earth nice people on here, and than again I've ran into some arrogant weirdos of the most bizarre kind. Its hit or miss. I have bought and sold a lot on here and always honor my word. If something comes up where I cant fulfill the deal I notify the seller or buyer immediately. Although I have never cancelled a arranged deal, maybe changed the time or day due to certain circumstances, but never backed out. I appreciate you speaking up about this member.
 
Never said you were wrong nor I'm trying to find a reason to say your wrong.... I didn't get to read/digested the entire situation, but seem like you ran into a crappy situation. It does sound like your very upset and needed to vent out, but again, name calling doesn't help your situation.
What I'm trying to say is, there are bigger things in life to stress over than this guy not buying your chiller, but thanks for the heads up on this buyer though.
 
:beer::beer:
There is a lot of buyers and sellers on here. I have dealt with mostly super cool down to earth nice people on here, and than again I've ran into some arrogant weirdos of the most bizarre kind. Its hit or miss. I have bought and sold a lot on here and always honor my word. If something comes up where I cant fulfill the deal I notify the seller or buyer immediately. Although I have never cancelled a arranged deal, maybe changed the time or day due to certain circumstances, but never backed out. I appreciate you speaking up about this member.
 
NVM found your ad,I would avoid you at all costs,you come across as a drama queen,surprised you didn't type your post in all caps.lol

I'll Add in these situations there's usually his side,your side then the truth.

Just saying
 
Last edited:
There is a lot of buyers and sellers on here. I have dealt with mostly super cool down to earth nice people on here, and than again I've ran into some arrogant weirdos of the most bizarre kind. Its hit or miss. I have bought and sold a lot on here and always honor my word. If something comes up where I cant fulfill the deal I notify the seller or buyer immediately. Although I have never cancelled a arranged deal, maybe changed the time or day due to certain circumstances, but never backed out. I appreciate you speaking up about this member.

Couldn't agree more ... I'm the same exact way, with similar experiences.

You're welcome, bud. That's the reason I posted, and took the time to spell out the interaction/reasoning, so other legitimate, honorable members with integrity and class can have the option not to have to deal with the same/similar stuff.

That and there's always someone like the no life loser above ... Chirping off in front of his keyboard. Just saying
 
Last edited:
other legitimate, honorable members with integrity and class


You've shown none of this

I wouldn't have any problem saying what I've said to your face ,so your assessment of me being a keyboard warrior is incorrect :)

Not to mention,I've moved people's tanks here.loaned money and given free equipment/livestock to members here.

One member I moved his entire setup(180 gallon) into a storage locker by myself and ended up getting screwed for $500 and change but you don't see me on here crying about it.lol.
 
Last edited:
Nobodys crying guy.

And I seriously doubt that. I'm sure I'll be on the other side of the bar/room, from someone that's like yourself, but feel free to one day. I'd enjoy that

Clearly, if you weren't just out to talk crap attempting to make yourself relevant by interjecting your usual negative based, ignorant libel/garbage, you would've realized the reasoning and obvious, transparent truth behind the initial post(s).

Maybe you are just slow, but I got my money on the intentionally misinterpreting/disregarding, no life troll theory.

Find something productive/positive to do with all of your time and endless opinions
 
Seriously?

Thread closed.

Some of you need to act a bit more maturely. You should be past the stage of keyboard Rambos.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top