Thanks sytanek, I wish I would of got two blacks at the beggining but I'm happy the way they turned out, (I couldn't get another one $$), I think it will be too risky for me to add another clown at this time. They do get a little rough from time to time. They did have a hard time adjusting to the torch they kept getting some type of lacerations on their bodies all three of them, but I have not seen them for a while now, actually I saw the torch stick to their bodies on the irritated part, that's got to hurt.