copper band drama

[mickeyray]

So heres the story

I got a nice 4" copper band butterfly for a friends 120. After acclimating I left it. Well the next day I get a phone call saying that he had a cloudy eye. So I go there after work and sure enough cloudy and all puffed up. So I catch the little guy out.. (and yes now I know nets are a no no... but just on a side note. Well then how the heck do u put them in ?? with ur hands) any way.. I took the guy back to my apartment, set up a 15g Rubbermaid with a power head and a heater lol. I first dipped the poor guy who apparently had plenty of flukes in a fresh water dip. Then I run out and pick him up e.m. erythromycin, and start treating. Well 2 days later I do the 25% water change, as directed, and try the fresh water dip, just to be sure, one more time. Now he still hasn't eaten at this point. Then I him treat again as directed for two more days. His eye starts looking better and I stop treatment as directed at 5 days and 4 doses. I change 25% of the water again and add some carbon. well that night I finally got him to eat a little frozen spiraline brine with the help of some h20 garlic juice. Then tonight I got him live brine and the juice and he ate a ton.. great right.. nice story.. happy... no!! Now he has little white chunks at the end of his fins. Ugh, now what do I do? I've tried so hard so far, oh and will the net damage heal?

 

[nikon187]

In fact i do put all my fish in my tanks with my hands and not a net. The damage will heal as long as it isn't too deep. The white chunks are lymphocites i believe

 

[mickeyray]

I actually have heard of that lymphocites... so basically from what I've read.. I'm screwed.. Or can he pull through?

 

[lostintheocean]

lymphomysys will go away on its own as long as the fish is healthy or gets healthy and water conditions are correct. My CBB had it when I got him, it cleared up in a week or so in QT and has not come back and no other fish in the display has ever showed signs of it.

---transfering without a net
i have a plastic container, like the cheap ziplock ones that i drilled a bunch of holes in and sanded down rough edges. I have another one with no holes. i put the fish in this the holly container inside the unaltered container. I can then lift out the container with holes and drain out the LFS water and put him in any dips i need in the container with holes. Then after the dip i lift out the fish in the container and the water drains out then he goes into QT. i then catch the fish in QT in the container and drain out the QT water and transfer him in main tank water to the main tank. It has worked well many times.

I built a fish trap that holds water for the main tank as it would be impossible to catch my fish with the above method in the display.

 

[mikid]

treatments

treatments

i myself am a firm believer in garlic,a neightbor or mine always ate garlic,since then 35yrs ago ive always have eaten garlic on my food instead of salt,i dont get sick,everyone around me gets it,but i just feel tired and throw it off,in the reef hobby ive always treated my tank with garlic extreme of any brand and my fish,new and old never get ich or any other illness,try some maybe it will work for you,helps build the immune system.....:rollface:

 

[snorvich]

Lymphocystis is a common infectious virus hosted by freshwater and saltwater fishes which causes cells to enlarge many times their normal size. It is usually found on the fish skin and fins. After residing on its host for 4 weeks or more, the Lymphocystis cells rupture or fall off the host, spreading the infected cells in the water. The cells then either lie dormant or reattach to another host via a break in the skin or fins, or in the gills.

The good news is:

* We can identify this disease fairly readily.
* Death from the virus itself is rare.

The bad news is Lymphocystis, at the present time:

* Has no cure.
* Appears to be contagious, spreading to other fish of the same or closely related species.
* The virus enters the fish's body through openings (injuries) in the fins, skin and gills.
* Spreads fairly rapidly on the affected fish.
* Death is usually caused by secondary bacterial or fungal infection.

Garlic has no effect on Lymphocystis or any other fish disease but good nutrition more often than not will cause a fish to survive Lymphocystis. There is anecdotal evidence that garlic affects fish appetite but there is no real scientific evidence of this.

 

[mickeyray]

he's eating pcmysis now sweet! lots.. but he still needs work

 

[wfournier]

I wouldn't be too concerned, mine got Lymphocystis and got over it in a few weeks. I would just give a nice comfortable space with plenty of food and things should be good.

 

[kwpgrooming]

My cleaner shrimp picked all the Lymphocystis off mine. Even the spot he had on his eye. Looks great now. I see a little pot starting on his tail again, but I'm sure the shrimp will get it eventually.

 

[OneArmedBandit]

I recently purchased a Burgess Butterfly from my LFS that had a small spot of Lymphocystis on it. I always QT my fish before adding to my display so I picked the spot off the fin and dropped the fish into my QT. It was in QT for about 4 weeks when I decided to add it to my display, it immediately went over to the cleaner shrimp and the shrimp went to work on it for about 10 seconds. Haven't had the Lympho come back, the Burgess eats every piece of food I put in the tank and it's obviously comfortable and stress free in it's new home. Don't worry about it too much as long as the fish is eating and isn't stressed. -Steve

 

[mickeyray]

well this is weird.. he ate like 10 mysis one day and then non the next.. he'd only except brine???