Coral/Emperor angel...any luck or advice? Thanks!

My emp is in a 210. I don't have corals in that tank at this time. I QT'd him in a 55 gallon reef several years ago when I first got him. (Lets you know where the corals come in on my priority list. :)) As a changing subadult, the emp ate every single zoanthid in the tank - probably well over 200 polyps. It didn't bother any leathers, Turbinaria, gorgonian or mushrooms. (The dogface puffer ate all the mushrooms.)

Gary, your tank is gorgeous! Do you still have that set-up? In your opinion, is your emp okay in that tank for life? Not to hijack, but if you still have that tank going, what are the tankmates with Junior? I'd be willing to devote my 210 almost exclusively to my emperor (Elvis).

Here are a couple old pics (sorry, I'm no photographer):
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Hi, Lisa. Thanks for the kind words.
The aquarium shown in my pix is still in full operation and receives regular updates on RC under the thread entitled

Junior's Reef

I completely understand where you're coming from- the Emperor Angelfish is one of the original reasons I was attracted to having a marine aquarium.
It's difficult for me to judge if Junior is still growing. At one point I believed that he had stopped but I was wrong. (I'm also still unsure whether "he" is actually a male!)
Even if "he" grows another couple of inches I believe this aquarium is large enough to provide him enough room to live a healthy and happy life :)

Elvis is a looker!
 
My Emps name is Elvis too! He had that name when I bought him, LOL.

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Has anyone had success with keeping a changing emperor angelfish with some lps
hammer torch frogspawn bubble pearl open brain closed brain lots of zoos (black fire and ice,purple abyss,pink and green) elegance chili's yellow toadstool and most imp. a large 22 polyp blue/orange florida ricordea mushroom coral ? i have a 150 gallon RT tank with lots of caves and LR maybe a good 110 lbs. with very mature LR with sponges all over the LR in the caves and i feed the emperor 2x a day a diet of mysis shrimp, formula 1 and 2 frozen prepared foods, sometimes pellets formula 2 and 1, and marine algae or nori- not all in 1 day but i mix it up. I added the emperor- 4 inches last to a tank of 3 yellow tangs small,pair of ocellaris clownfish,tuxedo damselfish,orange and yellow neon dottyback,powder blue tang small.I also have some SPS Montipora encrusted corals- thats have been fine so far after 1 month i havent seen any issues since i keep him well fed, but i know its a risk and i monitor carefully.I ocassionally see him nip at some sponge growth thats on the ricordea rock, and nip rarely at some zoos but haven't seen him touch the elegance hammer tourch brain bubble corals- my concern is i have a 240 gallon FOWLR tank but I love this fish and i would love to keep it at least until he/she is an adult or larger in the reef tank. I see and monitor him carefully nipping at the LR all the time which has sponge growth and coraline algae on it and after a month mostly hes in caves and hiding until he wants some food and even then the yellow tangs are way more active. The emperor has let the cleaner or skunk shrimp clean him and doesnt seem that aggresive even to other tankmates, but he is in the process of changing from juvy to adult.He does snap at very small nasarius snails if they come on the glass during the day, but only very tiny ones. So my question is can this be done if monitored and kept well fed will the emperor angelfish not eat my very expensive Aussie LPS corals, i do monitor him and feed him alot. I have an excellent Custom wet/dry (i use LR) for a tank up to 500 gallons, and an Aquamedics Protein Skimmer thats very good also for a tank up to 400+ gallons.So even with feeding alot the nitrates are in the RT less than 2.5.
I keep the Temp at 78F and the Salinty 1.023 the PH-8.2 the Ammonia -0 Nitrites 0.1 (trying to get that to 0 as soon as i do another mini water change) i keep the Calcium at 550 and ALk a bit high, 10-12 dkh. The fish look great really bold colors and the corals seem to be thriving under 1 250W HQI MH lighting with a 14k Phoenix lamp, and 4x65 PC lighting. I have a Koraliya PH i think its around 1400 GPH and a Mag 18 return pump. the run across the top of the tank and to some degree create a wavemaking like current/flow. I have a 4 inch SB of premium Florida keys sand. I'm new so i would appreciate any advise or anyones success with this kind of situation, I'm sorry if i put too much info- wasn't sure what to add or not so i put in my setup.Thanks everyone for advice/help and experiences.
 
fwiw

fwiw

I introduced an Emperor into my reef aquarium when the fish was a late stage juvenile. Around 80% of the corals now in my tank were added and grown out after Junior was in the aquarium.
In what might be an exception to the rule, my Emperor has become increasingly less "picky" towards corals as it's matured.
Oddly enough, I very rarely (if ever) see Junior go after LPS or Zooanthids.
If he becomes ornery he'll chomp on the terminal polyps (ends) of my stag Acropora.
I saw him sample my Goniopora once and that coral must taste extremely nasty judging from the fish's reaction.
He will nip at my gigantea carpet anemone once in a great while when the clownfish aren't paying attention.
He'll eat algae and certain sponges growing in the aquarium.
I've had several other (smaller) Angelfish that were much more destructive than this Emperor.

The "Junior's Reef" link I posted will take you to a thread containing a lot more info and pictures. That thread will also link you to my older "New Canvas" thread when I first introduced Junior into my reef aquarium.

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thanks for the info-and help, any specific experiences with mushrooms and ricordea mushrooms ? in regards to the emperor within a RT ?
 
my imp could care less about Discosoma spp. in my aquarium.

I imagine it would be the same for Ricordea spp.- especially since they're very toxic.

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my "New Canvas" reef aquarium
 
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anyone have a pic of what a stunted emperor looks like?
IME many people that own one do not realize their fish is stunted.

If they are aware, it's also my experience that people don't like to show off stunted fish :)

Fenner gives some good advice regarding Emperor Angelfish. This isn't a beginner's species.
 
IME many people that own one do not realize their fish is stunted.

If they are aware, it's also my experience that people don't like to show off stunted fish :)

Fenner gives some good advice regarding Emperor Angelfish. This isn't a beginner's species.

Seems a lot of RC people have all kinds of pics saved for whatever reason. Figured one might have a stunted Emperor.

by the way, I love Bob Fenner and am a huge fan of Wetwebmedia!
 
what are those bright neon green corals in the tank ? i assume they might be SPS- perhaps neon green acro stag ? or cup/plate corals but how did u get such amazing green neon corals, also what is that coral that looks like neon bright green grass ?
thanks :)
 
my changing emperor "Nate"

my changing emperor "Nate"

a photo of Nate my emperor angelifish changing so far around 5 weeks and hes behaving but being very well fed. a very nice variety of dry frozen prepared foods and Nori.

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Merry Christmas everyone

Merry Christmas everyone

I'll reply to more questions in greater detail later (it's Christmas) but Nate- you have a nice Emperor. It's very important at this point in time to keep it well fed with good foods. Keep the water quality up, too. This is important in order for your fish to develop to it's fullest potential.

The bright neon green corals are called "green star polyps" (or GSP's for short) in the reefkeeping hobby. They encrust rockwork and are very easy to maintain. There are several similar looking species and the type that I have is probably the brightest green. (I have others that are less brilliant.)
I'm glad you liked the video.

Korrine- don't purchase an Emperor until you're fully ready. They aren't "rare" by any means. It's most important to prepare for one beforehand- avoid impulse purchases :)
 
Korrine- don't purchase an Emperor until you're fully ready. They aren't "rare" by any means. It's most important to prepare for one beforehand- avoid impulse purchases :)

haha ya I know. I did a couple impulse purchases shortly after I started the hobby and my yellow clown goby went white and died and my Arabian Dottybock started hunting all my shrimps!!! I don't even have a tank set up after the house move yet. Want to have a 180 or 210 in the basement family room some day. Right now I'm like a sponge trying to soak it all up :thumbsup:

I have a peaceful reef planned for my upcoming 75(with a 75g sump to boot!) anyway.
 

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