Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank) - split

Peter and Shawn,

I want to take a second to personally thank the both of you for your service to this community. You are both an asset to our hobby.

The video worked flawlessly in HD. I appreciate the time and effort that you give to us and wish you much more success.

Thanks for the wonderful journey that you have allowed us to all be part of. I for one know that it has inspired me to be a better hobbyist and to raise my own personal goals for my system. I have already seen the fruits of my labor and I owe it to people such as you, Shawn and Chingchai.

Thanks again! I raise my glass in salute to you. Hopefully we will raise them together soon!

Scott
 
Peter and Shawn,

I want to take a second to personally thank the both of you for your service to this community. You are both an asset to our hobby.

The video worked flawlessly in HD. I appreciate the time and effort that you give to us and wish you much more success.

Thanks for the wonderful journey that you have allowed us to all be part of. I for one know that it has inspired me to be a better hobbyist and to raise my own personal goals for my system. I have already seen the fruits of my labor and I owe it to people such as you, Shawn and Chingchai.

Thanks again! I raise my glass in salute to you. Hopefully we will raise them together soon!

Scott

Scott, as one of the anchor tenants in this community you certainly have shared the journey with us from the very beginning. Shawn and I very much appreciate your kind words of support.

This community is proof of concept to the notion that the whole is far greater than the sum of its parts. Your enthusiasm mirrored back to us is spiritual fuel for the heart.

Thank you and we will get a chance to sit around the same table in the near future.......possibly all wearing oversized hats!!!!
Thanks for the feedback on HD.

Peter
 
Truly breathtaking. I could not stop smiling while watching the video. Very well done. A couple of weeks ago I started thinking about what a "reef TV" channel would be like. Something that goes beyond what reality shows and other documentaries provide us with. I believe videos like this are the answer. Thank you so much for the time and effort you have put into your reef and everything else to make this such an enjoyable experience for everyone.*
 
This is just a personal note and you may not share my view, but in my opinion this video works best by downloading it first. That way it is also available for viewing multiple times at highest resolution.

Just my 2¢.

Dave.m
 
Amazing video. Truly setting the bar for aquarium keeping and how we view it. The only problem that I could find was that I thought the audio level of your voices was too low when the music was playing. Otherwise everything was great.
 
What a great video , nicely done and i must say the coral growth is looking wonderful!

How many Moorish idols are now in the aquarium? and for how long?
 
Wow. Beautifully done Peter and team! Loved the info on the bottom of the screen as I watched. In all this time, I dont think that I ever "got it" that the smaller side of the "L" is 8 feet!

Corals are growing and filling in amzingly well.

Also seeing each dedicated "Grand Master" inspired area was awesome.

Peter, I think that you may be the grand master of "The search, implementation, and documentation of reef related best practices".

Of course you are only as good as the team which you assemble but you are the lynch pin. Thank you for your continued sharing.

Mitch
 
Astonishing. I kinda feel foolish to admit, but I remember seeing the posts about video yadda yadda yadda and was wondering why it was taking so long. I guess I was thinking it'd be like a video, home movie sort of thing. I wasn't expecting something worthy of national geographic. I confess I have been a rather silent member of the community, preferring to be more of a sponge to all the knowledge put forth here. I am meticulously planning my upgrade build and reference this thread quite a bit for help. Can't wait to see further videos. If you and mr Wilson are taking votes for next installments I'd love to see the led video as that was a much debated topic. Anyway, whatever video you guys release next im sure will be wonderful. Thanks! By the way, watched in 720 and it worked great.
 
video is excellent, very professionally done, I would suggest future videos be dedicated to specific topics in some detail, such as QT procedures, phosphate/nitrate control, pest control, problem solving, etc.

many thanks Peter and Shawn!
 
I have a question about flow from what I read from the website. The skimmer that I am using(Reeflo Hurricone CAT3 protein skimmer) to work proficiently needs to be fed around 1000 gph. The website states that the flow should be 1.33333 times the tank size or volume and equal to the skimmer feed. My setup DT will be 8'L x 4'W x 2'H which comes out to about 478 gallons. Multiply that by the 1.333 and that puts my sump volume flow to approximately 650 gallons. Even with power heads isn't that flow low for my setup or am I reading your concept wrong?

Your skimmer should have a steady supply of fresh (unskimmed water) for your skimmer. If you put your skimmer randomly in the sump and allow the exiting water to mix with newly drained display tank water, you will lose efficiency.

Your skimmer should be setup to direct exiting water over a baffle so it goes directly to the display and isn't re-skimmed.

If you go with this first-in first-out method, than you need to have a sump pump that moves 1,000 (real world) GPH. That means you need a pump that is rated for somewhere around 1300-1600 GPH to compensate for head loss.

In general, protein skimmers use pumps that move 300-500 GPH through them. In your case, you have a big skimmer pump that moves 1,000 GPH. The skimmer that Peter uses on his 1350 gallon tank moves 1,500 GPH through it, so our sump pumps does the same (1,500GPH).

The formula of 1.333 is just a catch all number that has exceptions, such as your big pump skimmer. If you don't use a first-in first-out flow in your sump, then you need to compensate for the inefficient processing of the same water repeatedly. You would need to move 6,000 GPH past the skimmer to assure that most of it is "new" water available. Nobody wants to move and drain 6,000 GPH through their tank just to make up for inefficient skimmer plumbing, so I strongly suggest you direct the exiting water over a baffle so it heads toward the return pump. Fortunately, your skimmer has a high exit port so this is easy to do.

If your sump pump moves more than 1,000 GPH, some water will by-pass the skimmer. This is a minor waste of resources, but not a major issue. If your pump moves less than 1,000 GPH, the shortfall will be skimmed twice, which is a little bit more of an efficiency concern, but again, not the end of the world.

I recommend the Waveline 5,000 (1350 GPH) DC return pump for your return pump. It will move a little over 1,000 GPH at your likely head height (you guys don't have basements in Florida :)). The Waveline pumps are dead quiet, low voltage, have speed control, 10 minute feed mode, run cool, and only consume 40watts.
 
Interesting mr Wilson. I hadn't thought of the redundancy of skimming the same water. Just thought it would be better. So for those of us with internal skimmers in sump you are saying we should have the outflow expelled into the next section of the sump to increase the skimmers efficiency? Is the difference that noticeable to justify adding a few plumbing pieces to do so? Thanks.
 
Peter,

Video worked at all resolutions. Excellent job on the intro. Glad to see that the LED's are working out so well. Look forward to the next installments. Thanks again for sharing.
 
Truly breathtaking. I could not stop smiling while watching the video. Very well done. A couple of weeks ago I started thinking about what a "reef TV" channel would be like. Something that goes beyond what reality shows and other documentaries provide us with. I believe videos like this are the answer. Thank you so much for the time and effort you have put into your reef and everything else to make this such an enjoyable experience for everyone.*

Thank you very much. We are thinking of creating an aquarium channel on UTube but we want to make sure that the basics are in place and that we have sufficient time and bandwidth to keep it replenished with fresh relevant material. What helps us enormously is this community of enthusiastic support. The feedback is extremely helpful in coaching us through the learning curve of relevant video production.

I think the expression now should be............stay tuned!!!!

we will be right back after these messages........

Peter & Mr. Wilson
 
This is just a personal note and you may not share my view, but in my opinion this video works best by downloading it first. That way it is also available for viewing multiple times at highest resolution.

Just my 2¢.

Dave.m

Good point Dave. Thank you very much for your help and support in getting this thing mounted properly in the thread and on the website. On behalf of those long term members I will also thank you for your help throughout this build. If you are new to this build Dave.M is our official webmaster, graphics and TShirt designer for the Team Nineball project.

Peter
 
Amazing video. Truly setting the bar for aquarium keeping and how we view it. The only problem that I could find was that I thought the audio level of your voices was too low when the music was playing. Otherwise everything was great.

Thanks and hello Russ. You are right about the audio balance and we have flagged that for improvement in the next episodes......

Peter
 
What a great video , nicely done and i must say the coral growth is looking wonderful!

How many Moorish idols are now in the aquarium? and for how long?

Thanks, I am very pleased with the tanks evolution so far. Learning about Moorish Idols and how to maintain them has been an education in itself. I had originally started with four and only one of them survived, but survive he did! I did not observe any fighting and two out of the four just 'disappeared'. The fourth one died with no apparent reason. I call the survivor 'HIM' simply because he survived as I really don't know what sex he is!!! He gained weight and interacted very well with all the other species in the tank. We brought in another four and put them in the 130 gal hospital tank for 3 weeks. They all got along well in the holding tank. after we transferred them into the tank I observed 'HIM' chasing and herding them to the short side of the tank under the arch. One died fairly quickly I think from stress and I removed it. Then one of the smallest introduced Idols who was badly beaten up by HIM suddenly turned the tables (I was actually watching when it happened) and fought back. Then I had two pairs of idols but 'HE' was still refusing to let the other pair travel too far into the tank. Remember we have almost 25 feet (8 meters) of reef to work with so it was something to watch when 'HE' would travel the whole length in 1 second to keep the other pair in line. HIS tank mate that slowly recovered and was fattening up nicely was totally ignored by HIM but they were generally both together. One month into this new arrangement HE turned on HIS tank mate and killed him. and around the same time one of the other pair just 'disappeared'. So now I have HIM and one other of the survivors. They have paired up and are swimming the entire length of the tank as you might have noticed in the video. They appear to be best of friends. Time will tell.

What I have learned from this so far is that territory, for the most part, is everything so if you have a large enough tank with enough places to hide they should be introduced all at once if possible. I do agree that anything smaller than 1000 gals is probably going to be very difficult to build a shoal. 5000 or larger would be easier depending on aquascape. Size of the fish appears to play a role. If the Idol is big fat and healthy it appears that 'HE' will dominate. However I did observe the badly beaten up smaller fish hold his own at one point so it appears that character does come into it at some point. I probably won't try at this point to introduce any more Idols as long as this pair survives. If for what ever reason I lose these guys I will try another group using the same 130 gal isolation tank and bring them along all at once. I think I would also keep them in isolation for a long time, possibly 3 months before introduction into the main tank. But for the time being I will observe this pair and keep learning from their behaviour.

Peter

ps. at the moment I have six active breeding pairs of Banggai Cardinals and they are doing incredibly well. I am about to return another ten of their offspring back into the main tank to see what happens. Hopefully mother nature will help them sort it out.

Peter
 
Wow. Beautifully done Peter and team! Loved the info on the bottom of the screen as I watched. In all this time, I dont think that I ever "got it" that the smaller side of the "L" is 8 feet!

Corals are growing and filling in amzingly well.

Also seeing each dedicated "Grand Master" inspired area was awesome.

Peter, I think that you may be the grand master of "The search, implementation, and documentation of reef related best practices".

Of course you are only as good as the team which you assemble but you are the lynch pin. Thank you for your continued sharing.

Mitch

Thanks Mitch, good to see you are still out there. You are right about the team. This has been a huge testament to the power of volunteerism. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. One of the team members even plays a decent game of nine ball but I will assure you that was a discovery 'after' the fact.....not before!!!

Thanks for the observations and support. It is appreciated.

Peter
 
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