Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

[crazzy]

Way To Go !!!

Way To Go !!!

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:beer::beer::beer:

I am assuming the delegation from South America is in agreement!!!! Thank you crazzy.

Peter

Peter; as "Chairman of the Board, you are allowed some understatement

Now we have a Foundation for a new Challenge / Venture that Peter has defined in this statement for himself.
As I read between the lines, Peter has stepped back from a very successful Software enterprise.
His insight/skills have evolved here on Reef Central into a thread of historic proportions at this stage of the build. :beer:

As we all know { or should } there really is not "one" way to be a masochist to this "Hobby" in doing it right.
Peter, with his "Touch" has brought some measure of finite clarity by attracting to this site/him maestros with great experience, chingchai, Mr.Wilson, Cap'n Hiliner and so many more, that lessen the inevitable stumbling blocks so inherent in this.
When I first got into this saltwater thing in the 70's, I used a lot of methodologies from Europe, particularily Holland which were quite different from North American. Now a lot of European "salt" has migrated to N.A., however they di still have some diverse concepts that hopefully will join into this "Peter's Post" as you move forward into Coral's and livestock husbandry where they seem tobe somewhat different from the North American "norm???" Hopefully more from across the pond will chime in.

So Peter, this evolution underway. is to have an important impact on the free wheeling discussion our "Hobby" { along with Cap'n Hiliner's log of it and Mr.Wilson's new book }, and as "Chairman of the Board" you have your work cut out for you!

:artist:

 

[msr224]

Once again it is time for a congratulations.

Peter, you and your team have some real drive to find the highest quality best performing system that you can assemble. The fact that you have stopped in the middle in order to regroup and look at what the overall big picture is......well that's just not something that most people would do.

From the outset of this project, Peter has been very direct about his expectations and goals. Where he differs from most is in the level of commitment. Sure this project is going to be very costly, more I'm sure than most of us could possibly fathom. While we all drool over the bentley, awesome wine room, nice gardens of Mrs. N, sweet LED lighting in the room and all the other accoutrement...Peter has done something most well off people would NOT do. He has stopped to look and find out if he is staying true to his goals and aspirations. Most would throw a bunch of money at it, hire a contractor, say this is what I want and include the phrase..."I want the best of everything...." What they would get is the most expensive system the contractor could muster but what they wouldn't get is what Peter is going to get....exactly what he and all the participants of this thread want...... the right system.

If Peter is this way in the business world then it is no shock that he has the success that he has and is able to fund a project like this.

Cheers to you and your team Peter.

Most importantly, all could stand to take a look at what we do at home and at work from time to time....are we getting what we set out to get? Are we staying true to our wants and desires. Do we compromise in order to avoid conflict on items that we should not?

 

[nineball]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

:beer::beer::beer:

I am assuming the delegation from South America is in agreement!!!! Thank you crazzy.

Peter

Peter; as "Chairman of the Board, you are allowed some understatement

Thank you again crazy :beer::beer:

Peter

 

[fla2341]

excellent planning as always. Looking forward to the new design developments

 

[nineball]

Once again it is time for a congratulations.

Peter, you and your team have some real drive to find the highest quality best performing system that you can assemble. The fact that you have stopped in the middle in order to regroup and look at what the overall big picture is......well that's just not something that most people would do.

From the outset of this project, Peter has been very direct about his expectations and goals. Where he differs from most is in the level of commitment. Sure this project is going to be very costly, more I'm sure than most of us could possibly fathom. While we all drool over the bentley, awesome wine room, nice gardens of Mrs. N, sweet LED lighting in the room and all the other accoutrement...Peter has done something most well off people would NOT do. He has stopped to look and find out if he is staying true to his goals and aspirations. Most would throw a bunch of money at it, hire a contractor, say this is what I want and include the phrase..."I want the best of everything...." What they would get is the most expensive system the contractor could muster but what they wouldn't get is what Peter is going to get....exactly what he and all the participants of this thread want...... the right system.

If Peter is this way in the business world then it is no shock that he has the success that he has and is able to fund a project like this.

Cheers to you and your team Peter.

Most importantly, all could stand to take a look at what we do at home and at work from time to time....are we getting what we set out to get? Are we staying true to our wants and desires. Do we compromise in order to avoid conflict on items that we should not?

Thank you very much for the warm support. It's very difficult to respond to an expression of support that is this generous. I can say that I firmly believe you have captured very well what I have struggled to achieve and I acknowledge your courage and passion in expressing it. I sincerely hope that I can live up to the high expectations we all hold for this build. The truth is that this quest is truly a team effort and the quality of the result will depend heavily on the active involvement of the folks on this thread with the help of the team on the ground here. There is some great stuff that is about to surface so hang on to seat we are about to take off again.

Peter

 

[SALTWATERSIG]

I believe its called a "chiton" not sure on the spelling but I had/have one in my mixed reef set up for years .....reef safe. btw GREAT thread.



Sergio

 

[reefgeek31]

Once again it is time for a congratulations.

Peter, you and your team have some real drive to find the highest quality best performing system that you can assemble. The fact that you have stopped in the middle in order to regroup and look at what the overall big picture is......well that's just not something that most people would do.

From the outset of this project, Peter has been very direct about his expectations and goals. Where he differs from most is in the level of commitment. Sure this project is going to be very costly, more I'm sure than most of us could possibly fathom. While we all drool over the Bentley, awesome wine room, nice gardens of Mrs. N, sweet LED lighting in the room and all the other accoutrement...Peter has done something most well off people would NOT do. He has stopped to look and find out if he is staying true to his goals and aspirations. Most would throw a bunch of money at it, hire a contractor, say this is what I want and include the phrase..."I want the best of everything...." What they would get is the most expensive system the contractor could muster but what they wouldn't get is what Peter is going to get....exactly what he and all the participants of this thread want...... the right system.

If Peter is this way in the business world then it is no shock that he has the success that he has and is able to fund a project like this.

Cheers to you and your team Peter.

Most importantly, all could stand to take a look at what we do at home and at work from time to time....are we getting what we set out to get? Are we staying true to our wants and desires. Do we compromise in order to avoid conflict on items that we should not?

+1
I wish I could join this amazing team and just be the glue guy. I have built many tanks for people that handed me large checks and said i want the best and have done my best to give them the right system, I have often came through and exceeded the expectations, but the level of success a man could reach after working on something so amazing as this tank is beyond words. Congrats for turning the next page of reef keeping. I think things in this hobby are going to change because of the effect your tank is going to have on the industry. Keep your head down and continue all the hard work we are waiting!~

 

[spleen93]

Peter - first post on this thread but I have been reading it for a while now. Congratulations on the step back and reviewing the goals/aspirations of the project - as others have mentioned, it is an uncommon thing in this hobby and probably should be a lot more common.

The picture to me does not look like a chiton - the shell appears to be more elongated than normal for a chiton though admittedly there are many species. Is it mobile? Does it move like a snail or more like a worm or a shrimp? Is the surface rigid like a shell of armor? A small mantis shrimp or a sea cucumber also come to mind though it'd be easier to tell with more photos and a description of its movement (or lack thereof). Looking forward to more photos.

 

[muttley000]

I thought it looked like a clamped up Mantis Shrimp also, however I am no expert.

At the risk of being out of place, msr224's sig line is another gem I've uncovered in this thread.

Peter,
Keep up the good work, as stated your commitment is hard to fathom!

 

[swissgaurd]

Why the reluctance Vic, is it a preference for all things au natural or something more substantive?

Peter

Peter
your wife maybe able to help you out on this one.

i go natural do to past experience.
Think of your wifes garden,if she uses produced chemicals her plants will grow spindley,and you have to keep adding,if she uses sheep compost her plants will grow thick and healthy.

its like the hydrangea flower, why doesnt she want to use aluminium sulfide to produce blue flowers.
its to get away from constantly adding chemicals,yes the pine needles will turn the soil acidic but the wait is much longer and the results will be amazing .

our lawns turn brown in extreme heat, we water and water to keep it green,if your lawn is dying , a little rain water will make it greener alot faster.

its nature.
good things take time

vic

 

[nineball]

Peter - first post on this thread but I have been reading it for a while now. Congratulations on the step back and reviewing the goals/aspirations of the project - as others have mentioned, it is an uncommon thing in this hobby and probably should be a lot more common.

The picture to me does not look like a chiton - the shell appears to be more elongated than normal for a chiton though admittedly there are many species. Is it mobile? Does it move like a snail or more like a worm or a shrimp? Is the surface rigid like a shell of armor? A small mantis shrimp or a sea cucumber also come to mind though it'd be easier to tell with more photos and a description of its movement (or lack thereof). Looking forward to more photos.

Thank you spleen. Welcome to the light. As more and more folks are motivated to let us know they are out there it makes this place more diverse and just that little bit more healthy with a larger objective perspective.

And now for some more pictures of our friend from the bottom of the sea near Jakarta............

The top 'shell' is hard and the bottom is soft like a snail. He/she does not move too fast but I suspect sticks to the surface like a slug.......... I have seen smaller cousins (I think the same species but not as big) trying to climb out of the vat above the salt water level and sticking to the side of the vat. The top shell is very hard but when disturmed can roll up into a ball. The top surface is almost like a jointed armour plate. I had left him in the small plate and when I went back to check on him he was gone.........probably a feast for an astute bird. The crabs are gone too. The crabs were very fiesty.


Peter

 

[nineball]

Peter
your wife maybe able to help you out on this one.

i go natural do to past experience.
Think of your wifes garden,if she uses produced chemicals her plants will grow spindley,and you have to keep adding,if she uses sheep compost her plants will grow thick and healthy.

its like the hydrangea flower, why doesnt she want to use aluminium sulfide to produce blue flowers.
its to get away from constantly adding chemicals,yes the pine needles will turn the soil acidic but the wait is much longer and the results will be amazing .

our lawns turn brown in extreme heat, we water and water to keep it green,if your lawn is dying , a little rain water will make it greener alot faster.

its nature.
good things take time

vic

Vic, your analogy's hold well. I am finding a growing significance to a parallel to healthy gardening practices. Also for each challenge there are a myriad of solutions each with their own merit.

Peter

Peter

 

[nineball]

I thought it looked like a clamped up Mantis Shrimp also, however I am no expert.

At the risk of being out of place, msr224's sig line is another gem I've uncovered in this thread.

Peter,
Keep up the good work, as stated your commitment is hard to fathom!

Thanks muttley.

+1 on MSR's sig.

Peter

 

[nineball]

+1
I wish I could join this amazing team and just be the glue guy. I have built many tanks for people that handed me large checks and said i want the best and have done my best to give them the right system, I have often came through and exceeded the expectations, but the level of success a man could reach after working on something so amazing as this tank is beyond words. Congrats for turning the next page of reef keeping. I think things in this hobby are going to change because of the effect your tank is going to have on the industry. Keep your head down and continue all the hard work we are waiting!~

But that is the whole point of this thread Reefgeek. You are a defacto member of this team. My hope is that as long as that is a fact, as long as your encouragement, advice and perspective have merit in this community you can call yourself a true member of this build. In fact, I am counting on it for the next part of the journey. This build is about ready to take off and we will need every finger we can enlist.

Thanks,

Peter

 

[Patrick F]

Hello Peter,

I really enjoyed reading your recent report on the changes that are occuring with the aquarium and group of professional aquarists you have gathered to undertake the sheer size of this project. It sort of reminds me of a Team Canada hockey squad preparing for the gold medal game!

The photo of the animal you located in the rock certainly resembles that of a sea cucumber to me and certainly appears to large to be a chiton. I guess however at this point and time with its irradication by the birds it really doesn't matter what in fact it was.

As my wife enjoys saying "when in doubt, throw it out" I suspect your feelings fall somewhere along those same lines.

A quick question about the rock moved to the outside, I may of missed this but are you using any type of material to cover the liverock system while it resides outside?

Perhaps some pics of it with the fantastic gardens would be excellent

Cheers,

Patrick

 

[nineball]

I believe its called a "chiton" not sure on the spelling but I had/have one in my mixed reef set up for years .....reef safe. btw GREAT thread.



Sergio

Thanks Sergio, if not a 'chiton' I hope a close cousin and like yours, reef safe because I suspect there could well be a few other members of his family hiding out in one ton of rock!!!!

Peter

 

[nineball]

excellent planning as always. Looking forward to the new design developments

Thanks fla, glad to still have you along. I don't think you will be disappointed.

Peter

 

[nineball]

about the temp issue

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-10646290

As always, thank you K.Sweeney.........

Peter

 

[Chago09]

It sux that you need to take a step back, but its great that you do it now. When I made set up errors that needed to be changed on my 90 gallon I felt like it was the end of the world to make the changes. On a tank that size its 20x worse. Having a group of pros will literally make this tank a thing to see. As a matter of fact your system has pros surrounding it then the Toronto Zoo reef tank. I'm sure in 5 years time that will show, with a thriving reef.

I want to be invited to your first frag sale. It would be awesome to take apart of the tank and put it in mine.

 

[nineball]

every couple of years ill add a cup of sand from an established sytem to my sand,or add a fresh uncured rock to establish new bacterias.
im now going to try adding the echoback pellets.

this reminds me when i first started out,before the internet.

i tried the chemical bacteria in a jar,i found that fish were never healthy and died.tried again but with damsels to cycle tank,it worked but when i added a yellow tang its fins turned red which was not a good sign.
then as i was reading the sunday sun classifieds there was an article for marinefish.
i went to thornhill,i then met jack he had a setup in his basement with fish forsale.i mentioned my problem,i gave him my fish that were struggling do to cycling,went to dominion bought a lobster unplugged the heater and added the lobster, 6 weeks later my tank had cycled with no algae problems.
added fish . ever since then ive been addicted.

vic

I was going to take your advice, went down to the Mermaid and Oyster and got two three pounders. I left them briefly in the sink to get name tags so I could tell them apart. When I got back they had changed colour to a bright red and refused to eat or move.

They were good though...:wildone::bounce1::bounce2::bounce3:

Peter