corals and horse's ?

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I might be getting some horses tomorrow and b4 i do i wanna make sure they'll be ok with the other inhabitants first any feedback would be most helpful.

heres what I got:
blasto
kenya tree's
mushrooms asst.
zoo's and paly's
candy corals
small rock anenome(size of a nickel or so came in as a hitch hiker)
small ?? (was told it was a baby brain coral but not 100%)
asst. sm. sponges
pair false percs.
mandarin dragonet
3-4in foxface
gsp's
cluster dusters
sm feather duster
cabbage coral sm.
small finger leather or devils hand(??)
spiny urchin
asst snails

I think thats everything if anyone needs a photo I can see if i can post i think i got photos of just about everything. Thanks in advance
 
oh I forgot a few guys 1 sm. green mythrix crab 1 scarlet hermet sm and 2 blue leg hermits also small guys, these guys I think are a no go but not for sure (as far as compatability with the horses)if thats the case then they can go in my fuge no problem thanks again
 
Re: corals and horse's ?

blasto- perfectly fine
kenya tree's- perfectly fine
mushrooms asst.- perfectly fine
zoo's and paly's- perfectly fine
candy corals- small risk, I'd take it
small rock anenome - needs to be removed
small ?? (was told it was a baby brain coral but not 100%)you got a pic or a species name? Some are more risky then others
asst. sm. sponges -perfectly fine
pair false percs - these tend to be problamatic in terms of aggresion
mandarin dragonet -perfectly fine
3-4in foxface- I wouldn't chance that
gsp's -perfectly fine
cluster dusters -perfectly fine
sm feather duster -perfectly fine
cabbage coral sm. -perfectly fine
small finger leather or devils hand(??) -perfectly fine
spiny urchin- - pretty risky
asst snails -perfectly fine

I'd ditch the crabs to the sump. Small risk to the horses, larger risk to the snails.

HTH
 
just curious but why no urchin? and does it make any difference if my clowns are really small one is about 3/4" the other maybe 1 1/2"
 
Inkmates, it depends on the size of the tank. What tank are these in? IME, even small clowns can be pretty territorial and aggressive.
 
Small clowns grow to be big clowns. :D ;)

Clownfish are generally fairly protective of there area. They are also pretty fast feeders so food would also be competition. IME I have seen a clown go after a much larger fish when the fish came to close to it's favorite place.

Urchins have a few drawbacks. They are kinda klutz's and often knock stuff over, including rocks. You would think a seahorse would be fast enough to avoid a falling rock, they're not. When they get of size urchins can actually pin a seahorse in certain aquascaping scenario's. I saw it happen at a LFS. The seahorse wasn't all pieced or skwered or anything, but it was trapped, luckly it ended up O.K. Another drawback is that urchins eat algae. Seahorses often grow algae on there bodies, bad mix.

HTH
 
I pulled the urchin last night went in my son's fowlr getting the horses tomorrow pulling crabs out as I find them I'll keep a close eye on the clowns if I have to I'll pull them also thanks for the input guys ohh one more thing the rock anenome I mentioned earlier is really close to a very small sps coral that i want to keep whats going to be my options for removal in this situation
 
What are your tank parameters? Seahorse require cooler waters than a reef set up. You want temperatures in the 72-74F range.

What type of flow rate do you have? Seahorses need a gentler flow than what you need for a typical reef tank.
 
If that rock anemone is a Aiptasia or Majano... you need to deal with it long before you get a horse. A picture of it would be helpful.
 
Even if its one of those corynactis, it still needs to be gone before the SH are added. Even a small anemone can kill a seahorse. Also, ditto on the flow and temperature issues that Matt mentioned.
 
my tank avg.'s 75-76 with a very gentle flow i've been setting up for horses since I upgraded my tank about a month ago. give me a couple of min's to take a pic
 
Did you pull out the foxface too? You need to. Also, if this is the 29, go ahead and pull the clowns, they have to go too.
 
anenome pic

anenome pic

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don't mind taking the anenome out but don't wanna kill the baby corals above it any suggestions thanks in advance ohh last night I saw two (searching with a flashlight a couple of hours after lights out) with orange centers very small 1/2 the size of a pencil eraser i'd say need help getting these out as well thanks again guys
 
I'd go ahead and remove the rocks that they are on, and try to remove the corals on the rocks so you can treat without harming the corals. If you cannot remove the corals from the rock, you may try to break the rock apart with a chisel to seperate the parts of the rocks with corals and the parts without. The eraser sized anemones with the orange centers are also capable of killing seahorses, they need to be removed too.
 
one other thing the "rock" directly above the anenome is a mullusk of some sort don't wanna kill that If i did i doubt that i could get it off the rock as it is attached well enough to move the 7-8 lb rock its attached to don't want it to foul the tank
 
Not sure... The best way would be to remove the rock and hypo it, but your tank may go through a cycle if you do that so you'll have to wait that out.
 
I think for the smaller ones I might be able to pull the rock out and use a micro torch to burn them off but still not for sure on the larger guy
 
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