Couple Q's

Lakeside518

Lakeside518

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1. NSW does anyone use it? I picked up 5 gals @petco today. Will use it for water changes on our Nano reef tank. So basically, just warm the water-stir and add to tank?

2. Last time i used a QT tank i slowly adj. SG
Would it be bad to just leave it at 1.010 and add the fish? Can't be nearly as stressful as a FW dip? Bad idea or okay?

Looking to add a new addition to the tank. Either a Threadfin/Auriga butterfly, a Copperband butterfly (Which i have read many members have had bad luck keeping them healthy-happy captive? Or a Salfin tang?

Current tank mates are.

1. Porcupine puffer
2. Powder blue tang 5 1/2"
3. Ornate wrasse
4. marron gold stripe clown

Any ideas/ opinions? Would really like a salfin not to large in size. Affraid there will be a battle with the powder blue?

Powder blue is well behaved with fellow tank mates now.
 
Re: Couple Q's

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7194115#post7194115 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lakeside518
1. NSW does anyone use it? I picked up 5 gals @petco today. Will use it for water changes on our Nano reef tank. So basically, just warm the water-stir and add to tank?

2. Last time i used a QT tank i slowly adj. SG
Would it be bad to just leave it at 1.010 and add the fish? Can't be nearly as stressful as a FW dip? Bad idea or okay?
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1- NSW is pretty easy to use...as you said heat it up a bit and do your water change. I would still check the SG, but thats just me :)

2- IMO it would be a REALLY bad idea to add a fish straight to a tank at 1.010. Yea a FW dip dosen't kill the fish right away....how ever eventually it will. You have to bring a fish down slowly.
 
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I agree with Joe. You'll likely send a fish into shock dumping it into hyposalinity. Drop saliity over 2-3 days also make sure you slowly raise salinity. Fast changes are bad in either direction
 
Thats how i have always done it in the past. Was just curious as to if you can do a FW dip, if you could add them to hypo.

Any thoughts on what to add to my stock list? I need some more color.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7195252#post7195252 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lakeside518
Thats how i have always done it in the past. Was just curious as to if you can do a FW dip, if you could add them to hypo.

Any thoughts on what to add to my stock list? I need some more color.
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Just to be clear..... you wanna know if you can take a new fish probably living in 1.025, FW dip him then drop it in a hypo tank all in one day? If so.....I wouldn't
 
LFS keep their SG around 1.16-1.18 At least some that i have been to.

Most LFS keep their SG rather low. I always ask when buying LS just to figure my acclimation.

So it wouldn't be that large of a drop?. I could be wrong. Anyhooo
 
i agree with the rest that would be too much . a fresh water dip followed by immediated good saltwater levels is stressful but a healthy fish will recover. now leaving the fish in a hypo salt envirnment for 24 hours will be bad. like everyone stated the introduction is not the killer ...its the non-relief from that envir. that kills them. a fish survives a FW dip cause afterwards it is returned to good saltlevels where it can recover.
also as the person who maintains the salinity at union they are never as low as you stated. the lowest i have ever tested them at is 1.023 and that was on the fish only tanks. the coral tanks and invert tanks are always at 1.024 or slightly higher. again this is measured with a refractometer that i bring in and calabrate all hydrometers to. food for thought: in a past thread i stated how i keep my salinity low with no issues( i believe it was 1.022)...then a member chimed in that when i give him frag's he test the salinity and it was way higher than i thought(1.025). this made me consider purchasing a refractometer that can be calibrated. thus i did and found that my hydrometer was off.
 
just saying that a person tells you the sg as thier equip reads it. in any case thier equip could be off. i was having great success keeping my sg low but then found out it was low on my meter but perfect on a refractometer. some people find that when they try to raise thier salt levels to 1.025 the tank looks bad....the possibly reason is that thier meter read low but was right on. when they increase the sg it went way higher then 1.025 so they had bad effects. so they preach to others that they have better results keeping the sg low when in actuallity it is right on at 1.024-1.025. my 2 cents and I lived it! LOL
 
1. the nsw is great stuff. it was used exclusively at macna. I did some initial tests on it of immediate transplants into it from my tank (fresh frags) and they did great.
2. I've had very good luck with copperbands. Had them for aptasia control. First one died from eating eggs released from a palyotha coral, and the other is still with a friend in dc.
 
I understand that after a FW dip and returned to SW that allows the fish to recover. I was just curious as to if you could go from say 1.018-1.020 SG to 1.010 without significant stress.

It seems as tho some shops keep thier FO SG at around 1.018-1.020 I exaggerated some previously. Reason given, was that 1) it is lower cost/ less salt etc, 2) reduces disease Ich etc.

I have always lowered SG over coarse of 1 to 2 weeks. I was just thinking of maybe cutting a corner. Advice taken, I won't.

Now as to current tank stock. Any recommendations on a colorful fish to add? Butterfly, Tang, or maybe dwarf angel? That IYO would be most likely to get along with what i currently have now.

Also, Is there anything i can add to a Nano reef to control Macro algae and fern/ vine type plants?
 
The NSW? It was $9.99 for 5 gallons. Didn't seem bad, thought i would try it.. Save some headaches for tonights maint. I did a large water change. I added the whole 5 gals. for a 12 gal Nano
 
yes it does reduce desease...again it is do-able if done slowly. in any case this corner should not be cut....it could be detramental.do it slowly....personally i think a sg of 1.018 is low enough to inhibit desease. just my thoughts.
 
ok thats not too bad but if i used it exclusively i would be poor!LOL. seriously as an occasional thing it wouldnt be so bad finacially...Im gonna search out some this week.....curious! thanks lakeside for that price quote!
 
Yeah i defin wouldn't wanna use it exclusively. That would be costly on large tanks. I only tried it to save some time. I didn't feel like dealing with the RO or spring water fuss lastnight.
 
on large tanks- it would break the bank! But, for people with small tanks, that aren't ready to invest in water purification or are time pressed, then this is a great option. At Macna, the vendors just unbagged corals and threw them in the water. The corals looked fabulous, and all the vendors I spoke with were very happy with how it worked out. Try doing that with fresh IO.

In addition to a butterfly- you could look at either rabbitfish or even some of the larger angels- see the thread on this subject.
 
What do i do with the plant like algae that over takes our nano reef? I have pulled/ plucked it several times. Will a
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?pCatId=94
Do the trick?

Any recommendations for this problem?

As for the next fish to add. I'm not looking for anything to large. Not upgrading to a 6ft tank for at least another 2 months. I know time to grow. Kinda scared to get anything to large. Also house shopping and may stay below 90 gal due to costs... :(
 
We have a algae blenny and he has done a lot of cleanup for us. He's been around for over a year and along with the tank is always nibbling on the stuff.
 
union has a few. but beware the can nip at corals. i had one that luved to nip at mushrooms . he did it so much the mushrooms would develope bruises. to make a long story short i got rid of him. but i have heard some do it some dont.
 
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