Cupramine in a display tank with live rock and DSB

[carnophage]

I am in the same situation, 210g 250 total water volume, with a bunch of larger fish, tank has been up for almost 8 months, with a fuge. And i hate reading these posts, only because i read one, and i decide to treat the Display, then i read farther, and decide to pull all the fish out, and QT. Then a bit farther, the display again... I am so confused on what i should do, i keep going back and forth. i have a ton of rock, and dsb, with some snails, that i can pull out. Should i risk the DT, or pull them to a QT???

 

[shluffer]

I'm reading up on Cupramine and found this thread.

To control ammonia spikes, will adding prime to the system work? Its clearly not an ideal solution, but dosing in a DT never is.

if using prime, would you dose preventatively or wait untill you see a spike?

I'm still hoping to avoid this, but I have ich from time to time in my DT. No losses from it, but I'm worried about adding fish.

 

[Stuart60611]

I'm reading up on Cupramine and found this thread.

To control ammonia spikes, will adding prime to the system work? Its clearly not an ideal solution, but dosing in a DT never is.

if using prime, would you dose preventatively or wait untill you see a spike?

I'm still hoping to avoid this, but I have ich from time to time in my DT. No losses from it, but I'm worried about adding fish.

Never mix prime or amquel with cupramine. You will have a dire adverse chemical reaction and fish will likely die. In terms of ammonia control with cupramine, you have only two options: live bacteria which may or may not be sufficient and/or water changes and re-additions of cupramine.

 

[agnes66666]

cupramine in tank with live rock

cupramine in tank with live rock

Don't believe everything you read, or one cannot have read all sources.

I pulse straight copper repeatedly in a calcareous envirnoment. There are also possibly valid reasons not to.

I think it is a matter of technical efficiency vs a combination of efficiency and ease of compliance, hence treatment over a long QT period.

hello. If cupramine would be killing good bacteria then surly it would also kill bacteria in your filter? right? People seed filter to use in quarantine tank, and after adding cupramine all levels are fine. whats the diffrent if you would do that with sand bed ? there is also bacteria, the same as in a filter?! if cupramine would cause cycle/ammonia spike then it will happend in filter and in sand bed. aga:deadhorse1:

 

[agnes66666]

ijust finished seachem cupramine 4weeks treatment in my display tank, and my bacteria is still alive and ammonia is 0 ( API ammonia test usead) i removed all cupramine ( which is buffered copper) from my DT full of live rock and SB using carbon Matrix for 2 days! I have got Seachem Cupramine, but all copper is gone only by using carbon! today i placed all my corals back, and everything seems happy! The one bad thing - Cupramine bleached all my coraline algae from live rock, but not from the glass!! my fish are looking good- velvet is gone, and my tank is clean of disease. I don`t have to worried that fish will be re-infected (as it happends often with hospital tank). fish must be so unhappy in hospital tank- change environment , plastic decorations..no mates! Cupramine works in DT and can be easily removed by using just carbon! API ammonia test will be showing ammonia when cupramine is present, as I tested plain RO water with added cupramine - it shows ammonia off the scale! After using carbon for 2 days to remove cupramine - API test shows ) ammonia again, and also my Seachem copper test shows 0copper.

 

[castroantonio]

Great!! Agnes, Im agree with you..