Cutting zoanthids in half?

DoctorLps

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There is a interesting thread on Zoa-club that introduces an experiment on splitting a zoanthid polyp to see if it will heal back to two polyps.

The first attempt it healed back as a single polyp, his second attempt he put eggcrate between to two halves, but now I am waiting to see his results>

HAS ANYONE ON HERE TRIED SOMETHING SIMULAR WITH ZOANTHIDS FOR ACCELERATED GROWTH?
 
The idea of cutting/splitting polyps is derived from cutting mushrooms in half, most often it is ricordea. This practice has been performed for many years. They grow very slow and by cutting them, proliferation is achieved, albeit slow, but in an instant, you go from 1 polyp to two polyps.

"HAS ANYONE ON HERE TRIED SOMETHING SIMULAR WITH ZOANTHIDS FOR ACCELERATED GROWTH?"


I haven't, I just can't refer to it as accelerated growth. I have read on other sights last year the discussion of splitting zoanthids. I will try to find the links and post them here. If one takes the time to read, research, set up a system properly and learn what it takes to keep a polyp happy healthy and alive, then and only then will they be able to see persistent/consistent growth per week the natural way. If zoas and paly grew as slow as ricordea, I could justify cutting, however good growth can be equally achieved through basic reefing knowledge from this or anyone of several dozen reefing sights such as RC. I would hate to see knowledge from those of you who willingly share it, being replaced by a razor blade as a means of reproduction. The joy for me is knowing that I can grow my way to a fuller colorful reef.

The rush will be on for razor blades and husbandry, lighting, PAR, proper ballast selection, bulbs, water parameters, good current etc, will be replaced by Exacto knives along the possible rise in Palytoxin exposures.

Cutting polyps exposes them to possible infections which could result in mortality. The same holds true for mushrooms, which is why an iodine dip is most often performed after they are cut. Lugol's iodine has medicinal properties which help aid and heal the mushrooms that are cut.

Happy, healthy, persistent/consistent growth can be achieved with threads like the ones listed below to name a few. These threads will receive limited attention and slide off the first page quickly. Instant polyp threads will last much longer for obvious reasons. I just choose to do it the old fashion way as it is most gratifying to me. Just my opinion and I force it on no one.


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1323511

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1329581


If someone’s polyps aren't reproducing, there's a reason. The facts are, you can cut every polyp and double your count, but if you don't have adequate PAR, good ballast/bulbs, adequate current, good parameters, good weekly maintenance etc, those cut polyps will never prosper and reproduce on their own.

Just my 2 cents

Mucho


Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and we can all agree to disagree.
 
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i agree with mucho on this one for almost every type of zoanthid. The only reason i could see this being reasonable for zoanthids is to help accelerate the extremely slow growing zoas. Orange envy comes to mind, i hear they naturally only grow one polyp a year.

then again they go for hundreds a polyp, and who would want to risk cutting that? haha
 
The challenge for me, is to get something to grow that maybe someone else couldn't. That's the fun of/in reefing. Environmental adjustments and daily observation can and will yield results to improve/accelerate growth. Understanding and knowing the regions of collection, understanding what actually promotes growth, knowing what to add and what not to add, salt choice, parameter levels, knowing your reef and listening to your reef, understanding photosynthesis, understanding the value of flow/current, getting the most PAR, bulb choice, and much more, etc etc etc, is what will determine the difference in a prospering reef and one that has stagnant growth and limited expansion.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11981350#post11981350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LoudProudNPunk
Orange envy comes to mind, i hear they naturally only grow one polyp a year.

then again they go for hundreds a polyp, and who would want to risk cutting that? haha
lol. ya....I dont think I see myself taking a knife to that one, or to any nice polyps(especially THAT one). haha

I even have this huge hot hot pink yuma that I have been offered godawful amounts of money for. Its obviously not for sale, but I cant get the thing to drop a baby for the life of me. Ive considered taking the knife to it on more thanone occasion.....but havent actually done it....and probably never will, and cutting it would be less risky than cutting a paly in half
 
Do you guys have any good links on where to find information on zoanthid Propagation, looking for stuff on flow, lighting, placment, and other factors the can inhance growth including Calcium and Alk lvls..

I liked the link mucho reef on the lighting great information.
 
The ZOANTHID INFORMATION DRAFT is a good source. It's located at the top of this page.

Your question sounds like a great topic of the week.
 
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