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tiburone9162003

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sorry i had to make a new threat for new problem :)
it looks like cyano might take over my tank maybe in 5 days,every day i see more and more,zoas and shroom are on sand and they getting covered by it,some LR getting some of that too...what should i do,any suggestions....?
 
phosphate remover, more flow, and good skimming. If it is your 24g aquapod, you can always go for chemi-clean and the obligatory water change (which shouldn't be that bad on a tank your size). But that will only remedy the symptom, not that cause, so it is usually a short term solution, but some have had luck with using it once every couple of months to keep their tanks clear.

HTH
 
Awhile back, I was fighting cyano problems. I tried water changes (15-20% each week), increase flow, phosphate remover, and less feeding. No matter what I tried, I was unable to get rid of it. And I tried this for several months! I finally broke down and used chemi-clean. It cleared my tank. I did have a casualty of cleaner shrimp and my pod population was decimated. But it got rid of my cyano and I have been cyano free in my main tank.

I have another friend who is battling the same issue for several months. Increase flow and more water changes didn't get rid of the cyano either. I gave him some chemi-clean this morning - so we will see how it works.

Minh
 
ummm,good info...i found something but forgot what it called but its just to remove cyano,but havent hear other people try it before so dunno...i might give it a try..do u have pics of ur friends cyano?
 
i use distilled water from walmart,dont have a RODI filter...should i try mixing water from the local lfs and the one in my tank? its that safe?
 
distilled water is not good from what i have read. ( i never used it but i know it doesnt include nutrients for a reef) so that could be the prob. Just pokin but hope this helps.
 
yea i have read that link before :) good info...that cyano can appear depends on lots of stuff...overfeeding,lights on for too long,water,etc,etc...
 
Part of the cure is a healthy pod population.Dont decimate that. Chemi clean is just a quick fix, but what about the reasons why it got there? What I dont understand is theres been quite a few people telling you that this is normal. Be patient. Yet you keep asking for suggestions :)

Minh when you say you used chemiclean and you havent had it since. Are you implying that you think it's because of the chemiclean? It kinda sounds like a scotch gaurd for cyano?

Problem with quick cures, is when you get caught up in them seems like theres something always new to cure.

Theres too many natural alternatives that can reap positive results in the short term and in the long term. More emphasis should be on discovering these, unless you want to become dependant on it. Were also talking about trying to emulate a natural reef, and be the responsible custodians of an ecosystem down to the microbial level. That my friends will never be in a white plastic bottle.

-Justin
 
Thats the thing,it will:D!

Alls you can do is keep on keepin on brotha, trust me. Ive had some of the thickest scurges of cyano I think possible. Worse then Ive ever seen anyones here or anywhere else on the net. I mean thick mats of red leather, covering everything.

Manual removal just helps but doesnt fix. Your tank just needs to mature. One of the best things I did for my tank was feed it more! But very conscious of what and how I fed it. Small consistant doses of phyto to boost and maintain my pod population, along with more natural foods and carefull attention to rinsing them with pure water sometimes a couple times if necessary. Also since my tank was already established I needed to pay attention to the fuel that was keeping the fire ablaze and that was phosphates. Which now I regulate with rowaphos, with my carbon.
Just wait till you get to battle bubble algae, that proliferates in nutrient poor enviornments! Good stuff ;)

-Justin
 
Justin,

I am not arguing that flow, constant water change, change in feeding habit can fix some instances of cyano bacteria. However - I have heard cases where people have tried all the above unsuccessfully and was only able to clear it using a chemical method (chemi clean).

However, I find it funny that you mentioned trying to "emulate a natural reef." I doubt there are bags of carbon, kalkwasser reactor, two part additives, garlic, fresh water mysis shrimp, FWE in a "natural reef." So adding stuff from "white plastic bottle" is essentially what we are doing to our reef on a regular basis.

Minh

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8884231#post8884231 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74

Problem with quick cures, is when you get caught up in them seems like theres something always new to cure.

Theres too many natural alternatives that can reap positive results in the short term and in the long term. More emphasis should be on discovering these, unless you want to become dependant on it. Were also talking about trying to emulate a natural reef, and be the responsible custodians of an ecosystem down to the microbial level. That my friends will never be in a white plastic bottle.

-Justin
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8884283#post8884283 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Justin74
Thats the thing,it will:D!

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What make you so sure?? :)
I had cyano before I knew RC and I used chemi-clean per LFS suggested. I had the same result like Minh. It went away and never came back.

Yes, it might come back or it's might not. Only time will tell :) ..
 
BTW - I forgot to mention that I had a cyano breakout in another tank (my old work tank) and it did go away on it's own - no adjustment in flow, no changes in feeding, no changes in water change schedule. It just went a way in a few weeks.

I am just trying to give tiburone9162003 an alternative solution for his cyano breakout.
 
umm,ok...i have like 3 week since i notice cyano in my tank,i thought it was diatoms or maybe it was but im getting close to the month of cyano and still coming back,this morning i saw more ..u guys think it might be the distilled water i been useing?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8884389#post8884389 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Elite
What make you so sure?? :)
I had cyano before I knew RC and I used chemi-clean per LFS suggested. I had the same result like Minh. It went away and never came back.

Yes, it might come back or it's might not. Only time will tell :) ..
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What makes me so sure? Experience, and eye witness accounts of tanks that are much more diverse and established than mine.

"It went away and never came back" Theres that line again
:rolleyes:

More accurately, you mean hasnt come back yet... Nothing is absolute.

I understand why you mentioned it Minh. It's something that worked for you and you want to extend the viable option. My only concern is that he'll get somewhat dependant on it rather than depend on good sound husbandry to eleviate his woes. Because when a tank is up and running like it should be the only additive needed should be fresh RO, food and some form of calcium and/or mag supplement.



-Justin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8885243#post8885243 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tiburone9162003
umm,ok...i have like 3 week since i notice cyano in my tank,i thought it was diatoms or maybe it was but im getting close to the month of cyano and still coming back,this morning i saw more ..u guys think it might be the distilled water i been useing?
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What exactly are you expecting between yesterday and today :lol:

Were talking weeks to months before it is totally gone. Thats why I suggested after a months time get more aggressive but stop worrying about it untill then. This reminds me of the saying about the horse and water....Oh well, I digress.

-Justin
 
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