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Kurt

Had good weather yesterday, Mark went out, got past the island, our new $15,000 Yamaha 250 blew up....has been a lemon since the day we bought it......in june.....only 71 hours on it..

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Mark is out today in my boat, we will see......

Richard TBS:rollface: :rollface:
 
i hate that when that happens thing are going great then poof
BIG OLD MONKEY WRENCH sorry to here
 
Darn Yamaha! :(

Let's spam Yamaha's website in protest.

Thanks for the update Richard! Really sorry to hear about the motor.

Kurt
 
Spam...nah LAWYER!!!

Spam...nah LAWYER!!!

landlord said:
Darn Yamaha! :(

Let's spam Yamaha's website in protest.

Thanks for the update Richard! Really sorry to hear about the motor.

Kurt



I am beyond spam.....this motor had issues since day 1......

I complained to Yamaha many times about it, they do not care once they get their money, you are on your own.

This is the first production year of this motor, we should have know better, but the 4 stroke I purchased from them was so good, I figured, bigger is better...WRONG.

STAY AWAY from Yamaha 250 2-stroke motor, do yourself a favor and buy the 4-stroke.

The dealer will do nothing as they just sell the motors, the manufacture is responsible for the performance, according to my lawyer, and will be responsible for lost business also.

If anyone knows of problems with a Yamaha 250 2-stroke motor, please let us know. It is the HPDI <high pressure fuel> model....

We are filing suit this week, will keep you posted!

Richard TBS:rollface:
 
Good for you. Maybe is they check out your "History" story they will decide to settle outta court! and stop screwing with the little guy!

Godd Luck!

-landlord
 
12/13/03 - Day 22

Results:

Date/Time: 12/13/03 7:49 PM
Temp: 79 degrees
Ph: 8.2
Salinity: 1.025
Alkalinity: Normal / High
Ammonia: .25
Nitrite: .15
Nitrate: 12
Phosphates: 0.3
Calcium: 400ppm

Notes:

Chemistry is a bit outta whack. No explanation. Maybe dying sponges or something. Will do a water change in 24 hours. I finally picked up a Phosphate and a Calcium test kit. Now that I realize that the phosphate level is high 0.3, what do I do??? Same with Calcium. I need to add some but am not sure how to go about it. Any thoughts/ ideas / suggestions would be welcome.

Many Thanks

-landlord
 
phosphate sponge\pad or media in a mesh bag. i like the media just dont like to add anything in the form of a sponge or floss if not absolutely needed. put the media in a mess bag 800micron
throw it in the water path try to make it so the water has to go through it not around it, usually 8 to 24hr is recomended.

calcium how low is it i would just do a water change as you planned and recheck then no need to put any additives in while your tank chemistry is still a little off.
 
Cool thanks Delta! The water change is done! Someone told me that I should simulate a hurricane with my power heads to get the phosphates suspended in the water. What this guy crazy!
 
Happy Days are here. Just getting in my car for the 2 hour drive to TBS for the second half of my shipment. Got a nice NE wind with clear skies so diving should be good.

-landlord :)
 
:(

What a bust. Bad luck for everyone. I got down to the shop to find out that the power went out. If any of you out there have gravity based filtration (keep in mind he has thousands of gallons) without stop valves you know what this means. Water coming out the front door. Richard was not a happy man. The weather outside was beautiful but the diving visiblity was very poor. Since the power problem caused a water problem I was not able to get any rock. I did however leave with a really cool flame scallop. The 2 hour drive home was compounded with a 2.5 hour delay on I-4.

Things can only get better from here

-landlord
 
Man really sorry to hear that been a bad week for Richard :(

Hope your right landlord up is the only way to go

oh yea how about a pic of that Flame Scallop
 
12/15/03 - Day 24

Results:

Date/Time: 12/15/03 9:17 PM
Temp: 80 degrees
Ph: 8.2
Salinity: 1.025
Alkalinity: Normal / High
Ammonia: .1
Nitrite: .05
Nitrate: 14
Phosphates: 0.2
Calcium: 400ppm

Notes:

Looks like the water change helped a bit. I need to keep my mits outta the tank for another couple of days. It needs time to settle back into a routine.

delta - I'll get a pic up there soon. Mom is coming into town. Her digital should work better than the one that I borrowed, and have since returned.

Thanks for looking...

-landlord
 
12/16/03 - Day 25

Results:

Date/Time: 12/16/03 7:00 PM
Temp: 80 degrees
Ph: 8.0
Salinity: 1.025
Alkalinity: Normal
Ammonia: .25
Nitrite: 1.0
Nitrate: 20+
Phosphates: 0.2
Calcium: 500ppm

Notes:

I got big chemistry problems, and I believe I am the reason. Patience got the better of me and I got sucked in by the LFS. I put a Black Percula Clown, Yellow Tang into the tank and all hell broke loose. Do I need to let the bacteria just catch up? Perhaps a water change, if so how much (75 gallon tank). Landlord is :( at his actions and must repent. Is the tank doomed?

Please Advise

humbly repentant

-landlord
 
Well on the 13th you were running:

Ammonia: .25
Nitrite: .15
Nitrate: 12

and the LFS told you to put in fish? Ammonia came down with a water change but the nitrate and nitrite are still climbing.

What's the chance that the LFS will take the fish back until things stablize? Or do you have a QT that you can put them in?

In any case I am guessing I would do a water change (but of course I am more of a newb than you). Try posting in "new to the hobby" probably get more feedback than you can handle. Not that many people are on this forum ( I just happen to be subscribed to your thread ).
 
Landlord,

Quiz time!! Do you have a copy of Fenner's 'Conscientious Marine Aquarist' or Tullock's 'Natural Reef Aquariums' yet?

Your tank is not doomed, but you've just made yourself a ton of work (well, the Tang police might say your tank is doomed, but I won't ;) )

You realize you still need to add another 75# of LR to your tank, plus critters (unless you already put in the critters, I don't remember anymore), so your biological filtration is not completely established.

You have the following options:
(1) Do a massive water change (30 to 50%) with well equilibrated water
(2) Be ready to perform 10-20% water changes daily (this will drag out your nitrogen cycle, but you've got to consider the cruelty to your fish if you stress them with ammonia & nitrites)

Or, as Splach suggests, temporarily move your Clown & Tang into the 'Surprise Honey' tank until the reef tank is stable. (This will make your 29g overcrowded, but those are the breaks).

I would probably move at least the Tang into the FOwLR tank, even though that will make it overcrowded. The Tang is less hardy, and if the LFS gave you a specimen that carries an Ich infection, at least in the FOwLR tank, you can treat it.

Your priorities are:
(1) Keep fish alive
(2) Keep LR alive
(3) Keep cleanup critters alive

This requires that your chemistry be good (low ammonia/nitrites, heading to zero ammonia/nitrites), and a good bacteria population. Unfortunately, low ammonia/nitrites make it longer for the bacterial population to get established, so you'll have to just do water changes (and we're talking daily if need be) until the nitrogen cycle completes again, and that will take longer because you can't let the ammonia or nitrites get high (as that will stress the h$#^ out of your fish).

Don't be afraid of doing a 50% water change with well equilibrated water (salinity & temperature adjusted; I like aged by at least 24 hrs, but that's probably a feel-good measure).
 
One more comment:

You realize that the Tang should also probably have been the last fish in? While he's not likely to bother any non-Tangs, they're not called surgeonfish because they went to med school ;) . They also eat voraciously, and, umm, poop voraciously.

You could probably put the Tang into the 29g (temporarily) and the damsels from the 29g into the reef tank. The damsels are quite hardy and can tolerate non-pristine water better than the Tang. Again, don't let the ammonia and nitrite rise (unnecessary cruelty), but now, you don't need to worry about killing the poor fishies.
 
Thanks guys!

I have filled up 20 gallons worth of water which I have salted. They are now bubbling in the corner for now. Relatives are arriving tomorrow. I hope they like saltwater tanks because this is where I will be for awhile.

Hy - Answers to your questions.

I have none of the reading material listed, however I am pretty sure I will be getting it come Xmas. Perhaps I will raid the santa closet early. The books that I have have basically, but not in so many words, told me that what I did was counterproductive. I am thinking that daily 20 gallon water changes (for several days) could be helpful. I am unable to catch the fish without massively disturbing the LR. I will double my efforts. I will post my successes / failures.

Thanks Again

-landlord
 
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