decided to post here- ich questions

I don't think there is any clear cut evidence that ich is always present in your tank. I've heard arguments both ways. All I know is that I ran hypo for 7 weeks back in January. I haven't seen a trace of ich since.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11000939#post11000939 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SUPERHERO2943
its a parasite that is always present whether you see it or not.

I disagree------

"I want to be clear on this point. I do not believe Cryptocaryon irritans is always present in our systems. With a strict quarantine protocol, it is possible keep an Ich-free aquarium. I just believe that there have been enough hobbyists who have misused a treatment or utilized an ineffective treatment option, such that they never really fully conquered their initial infestation. Their continuing problems over the course of many months, and the posting of those experiences, seem to be enough to promote this aquarium myth. Cryptocaryon irritans can be eradicated from an infected system with a proven treatment and can be kept out of the system if good quarantine practices are employed"

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11005687#post11005687 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
I disagree------

"I want to be clear on this point. I do not believe Cryptocaryon irritans is always present in our systems. With a strict quarantine protocol, it is possible keep an Ich-free aquarium. I just believe that there have been enough hobbyists who have misused a treatment or utilized an ineffective treatment option, such that they never really fully conquered their initial infestation. Their continuing problems over the course of many months, and the posting of those experiences, seem to be enough to promote this aquarium myth. Cryptocaryon irritans can be eradicated from an infected system with a proven treatment and can be kept out of the system if good quarantine practices are employed"

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
I couldn't have said it better myself. ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11000296#post11000296 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SUPERHERO2943
This guy thinks if you keep tangs, or other fish prone to ich you need a UV sterilizer. You can't "cure ich" you can only control it. It's like herpes for fish. Just because there are no symptoms doesn't mean its not there. Get a UV.

this is very controversal--alot of dependant variables:


Treatment Option 9: U.V. Sterilization

Ultraviolet sterilizers work by damaging most anything in the water column that passes through them. Their effectiveness is dependent on the wattage of the unit, the flow rate through the unit, the age of the lamp, the volume of the water being treated, the cleanliness of the sleeve, the clarity of the water, and the decorations (potential hiding spots for tomonts) in the aquarium (Moe, 1989). Colorni & Burgess (1997) discuss the use of UV. They extrapolate from a previous study done on freshwater Ich, Ichthyophthirius multifiliis, and UV (If you are so interested, the original article is Gratzek, Gilbert, Lohr, Shotts, and Brown's 1983 piece "Ultraviolet light control of Ichthyophthirius multifiliis in a closed fish culture recirculation system." It can be found in the Journal of Fish Diseases volume 6 pages 145-153). In the study, they showed UV could prevent the spread of Ichthyophthirius multifiliis when used on a central system, but could not affect a cure within an individual aquarium. Colorni and Burgess believe the same would hold true with Cryptocaryon irritans. I would concur with them as my own personal/professional experience has demonstrated the same. I have found UV's to be very effective in bare bottom tanks, primarily in retail and wholesale operations. In display aquaria, the volume of the tank, the substrate and rockwork, the flow rate of the UV, and the wattage all work against its effectiveness. In commercial operations, many times, employees wipe down bare bottom tanks daily to maintain a clean appearance for customers. This has the added benefit of knocking loose the cyst stage of the parasite. The bare bottom, minimal decoration, high flow rates, and massive UV units on these systems ensure that most all the cysts and theronts pass through the sterilizer and are neutralized

http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-08/sp/index.php
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11005708#post11005708 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Steven Pro
I couldn't have said it better myself. ;)

wow--in my life time--nice to meet you---as you can see I highly respect your work:smokin: :smokin:

Scott
 
if that were the case, coudnt u add a bb QT tank to ur display tank, and add 2 uv steralizers, one from the water coming from the tank and another on the return?
 
SUPERHERO2943,
how often do you run your uv? cause ive been told that it also kills helpful things in the aquarium.
And here is Marine C it basically helps build the immune system in the fish. But remeber that ich comes back like 100% stronger. It will seem like its gone but a week later it could kill everything. Not trying to scare you.
 
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