deepwater zoos

jerl77

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anybody have luck with them? i got a bunch and they just melt away if i get reg zoos no problems at all
does anybody have the same problem?
 
All of mine are doing well ( 4 different varieties) growing strong. All are at the bottom 1/3 of the tank under 8 T5.

Lots of flow
 
usually when they just come from the wild that is when i see people having problems with them. mostly melting away,
I have some that are called japanese deepwater and they seem to be doing great for now. mine are from offspring of wild ones, but not straight from the wild. Like Nikon, i do keep mine lower in the tank under low lights for now.
everything labled Japanese is fake. nothing comes from Japan. if it did it is highly illegal. stuff that comes in that doesnt have a name usually gets the deepwater name slapped on them.
 
I believe the first few deepwaters that first came in were very suseptible to melting or were unstable. I remember back when deepwaters just started to come into the hobby, I bout a couple hundred worth.... those wild pieces had a difficult time adjusting to our aquaria. Either lost to POX ( harder to treat on a deepwater than a regular zoo for some reason ) and fungus. Maybe it has to do with the collection process in which they are ripped/taken off their rock work. as the only way to export them is without any live rock attached to them.
 
I had a large frag of deepwaters that did the same. From reading the above I believe mine to have been of the wild variety as they came on a thin layer of sponge. I fraged the colony into 5 frags and placed them all over the tank in different flows and depths. None survived.
 
I've had success with my wild deepwater colonies at very high light and very high flow. After a couple weeks of having them, any signs of pox disappeared, the colors intensified, and the polyps nearly doubled in diameter.
 
Also ones attached to sponges and are frag you may have killed the sponges and in turn killed the zoos. Also if you want deepwater zoos you can get tank raised ones and they are much hardier.
 
It is my understanding that any real deepwaters that came into the US came in from Canada who got them from Japan.
 
what i was told by my buddy (Frag-A-Rack) was that these zoas are from japan originally. The catch is the polyps cannot be attached to any rock or coral, wether it be alive or dead. Thats why the first colonies that came in like mine, where rolled up like fresh sod. The wild colonies are very susceptible to zoa pox which will cause them to melt away quick style.....I know......cause I lost mine. I just got 2 frags From Akwarius and they're doin fine. Its nice to have em back!
 
JDW zoas

JDW zoas

Not sure of the exact things that make one a JDW, but basically it is some morph of a dark center and a ring of various colors, usually dark again with varying colored skirts. Sounds like a hornet. Doesn't have an alternating skirt and the ring is fat.

Here are just a couple of many types.

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Ive got some.....bought them already fragged and mounted to a disk. They were slow to start growing, but now, they are growing really fast. I started with 2 polyps...and 4 months later im at 14. t-5 lighting and they are located in high flow on the sand bed.
 
I have some deepwater zoanthids that seem to do great, but others just melt.
Might be in the collection.
 
this is an interesting thread. The colors on most of the deep water zoas are incredible. I've only seen the smaller polyped variety though.

It would make sense that low light, high flow would be best for deep waters though, right? (Unless they're not really coming from "deep" water)...
 
no zoas have ever came from Japan. harvesting zoa or coral in japan's waters is illegal and very carefully watched.
they just give it that name to make it sound like they are rare and illegal. most called deepwater, or japanese deepwater are mostly from marshall island or Bali.
 
how do you know if they deep water or not ?


I believe it is the tell tale bright, vibrant thick ring around the center mouth. The ones I had that all melted were by far the most vivid colored zoas i've had to date. they were actually gray zoas and the ring was fire engine red.
 
i too have lostt he few that i had but im sure they where wild caught ones....thats why im trying to find reefers locally and on here that have them so i know they are tank grown and have a better chance....the only thing in my tank now that is wild caught is a LARGE(12x8) chunk of green encrusting goniopora....


great lookin zoas wycombes....the 2nd ones kinda look like what i had...what are they? i never knew a name for mine...
 
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