Dendronephthya study group v.2
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uhuru
New member
Ok sorry it took me so long but here are my dendros...
- Age of system
Started 5/2009, upgraded 7/2010
- Net water volume including sump, fuge, etc
~100 gallons after subtracting rocks, sand, etc.
- Dimensions of tank(s) with Dendronephthya
48" x 18" x 18"
- Biological filtration (biopellets, fuge, etc)
40g fuge with deep mud sand bed, caulerpa, seagrass
- Mechanical filtration (skimmer, filter sock, etc)
ATB cone skimmer rated for up to 480g
- Chemical filtration (carbon, GFO, ozone, etc)
Ozone (50mg/hr), carbon
- Brand of salt(s) used
Instant Ocean
- Amount and frequency of water changes
4 gallons/day "continuously" with litermeter 3
- Feeding regimen (what you feed, how much of each type and how often)
Left flask:
1.5" cube frozen Cyclop-eeze
1.5" cube frozen rotifers
1" cube frozen Nutramar Ova
2 prepackaged cubes frozen baby brine shrimp
10-15 drops FM Ultra Min D
1.5 tsp of dry food mix consisting of:
2 parts NLS Reef Micro Feeder
2 parts FM Ultra Clam
1 part FM Ultra Seafan
1 part FM Ultra Min F
1 part FM Ultra Zoa
1/2 part FM Ultra Life
1/2 part FM Ultra Pac
RO/DI water added to make 1200mL of mixture
100mL dosed every hour for 12 hours/day
Right Flask:
H2O Life Nanno9 Live Phytoplankton
Currently dosing 50mL/hour for 18 hours/day
Bottle on the right:
Reef Nutrition Oyster Feast, dosed 5mL every 12 hours
Target Feeding:
Rods Food, Roggers Food, NLS small fish pellets or FM Ultra LPS 2x/day to LPS corals and fishes
- Fish species kept
In tank with dendros:
3 x Apogon leptacanthus
1 x Ctenochaetus strigosus
1 x Genicanthus bellus
2 x Serranocirrhitus latus
In fuge:
2 x Apogon parvulus
1 x Oxymonacanthus longirostris
1 x Ecsenius stigmatura
- Type of food fed to fishes and how often
Same as for corals
- Circulation pumps and total gph
Main pump - ATB flowstar 1500 gph
Circulation - 3 x Vortech mp10w ES at ~1400gph each
- Type of flow (laminar, alternating, random, any combination of these)
Alternating laminar
- Lighting
Overdriven 36" T5HO with high quality reflectors and Icecap 660 ballast
1 x ATI Blue Plus
2 x Giesemann Pure Actinic
1 x KZ Fiji Purple
- Lighting period
4pm - 10pm
- Other corals kept
Dendrophyllia spp.
Tubastrea spp.
Scleronephthya spp.
Various non-photosynthetic gorgonians
Cirrhipathes spiralis
Chironephthya spp.
Paraminabea spp.
Alcyonium spp. (chili coral)
Various unidentified non-photosynthetic soft corals and anemones
Palythoa spp. (photosynthetic)
- pics of the dendronephthya
D1 (9/2010 - present), purchased from Blue Zoo
This one has lost about 25% of its size. It was covered in 10+ brittle stars and stopped expanding all together for 2 weeks. After physically removing the brittle stars it has started expanding again. It is placed in a cave like area and has been stretching out towards the stronger direct current.
D2 (9/2010 - present), purchased from DD
No problems with this one so far. It took about 2 weeks to start expanding fully and has changed its shape a little probably to adapt to the flow. It appears to have grown but I haven't taken the time to count the polyps.
D3 (10/2010 - present), purchased from DD
This one has definitely changed its shape. It has become longer and skinnier. A portion of it comes into contact with a gorgonian when it bends with the current, and this seems to cause some irritation but the polyps still open. It doesn't seem to have grown and may have gotten a little smaller in the area that is in the most direct flow. This may be causing some irritation as well.
D4 (11/2010 - present), purchased from DD
This one took a couple of weeks to fully expand. It kept expanding a little more every night. It would purposely stretch itself in the direction of the nearest coral and make contact with that coral. I verified this by moving it around the tank.
Here is a burned off branch that was the result of it stretching out to touch a dendrophyllia. There are new polyps growing from the burnt tip. Other than that I haven't noticed any growth, but like the others it seems to change its shape to adapt to the flow.
D5 (12/2010 - 12/2010), purchased from DD
This one arrived practically DOA. I just want to show what an almost dead dendronephthya looks like. Stretched out but flaccid and unable to lift itself no matter how I position it. I've had it for a week and it looks better than before but still very weak. I'm waiting to see if a miracle happens, but experience tells me this one is on the way out.
- Age of system
Started 5/2009, upgraded 7/2010
- Net water volume including sump, fuge, etc
~100 gallons after subtracting rocks, sand, etc.
- Dimensions of tank(s) with Dendronephthya
48" x 18" x 18"
- Biological filtration (biopellets, fuge, etc)
40g fuge with deep mud sand bed, caulerpa, seagrass
- Mechanical filtration (skimmer, filter sock, etc)
ATB cone skimmer rated for up to 480g
- Chemical filtration (carbon, GFO, ozone, etc)
Ozone (50mg/hr), carbon
- Brand of salt(s) used
Instant Ocean
- Amount and frequency of water changes
4 gallons/day "continuously" with litermeter 3
- Feeding regimen (what you feed, how much of each type and how often)
Left flask:
1.5" cube frozen Cyclop-eeze
1.5" cube frozen rotifers
1" cube frozen Nutramar Ova
2 prepackaged cubes frozen baby brine shrimp
10-15 drops FM Ultra Min D
1.5 tsp of dry food mix consisting of:
2 parts NLS Reef Micro Feeder
2 parts FM Ultra Clam
1 part FM Ultra Seafan
1 part FM Ultra Min F
1 part FM Ultra Zoa
1/2 part FM Ultra Life
1/2 part FM Ultra Pac
RO/DI water added to make 1200mL of mixture
100mL dosed every hour for 12 hours/day
Right Flask:
H2O Life Nanno9 Live Phytoplankton
Currently dosing 50mL/hour for 18 hours/day
Bottle on the right:
Reef Nutrition Oyster Feast, dosed 5mL every 12 hours
Target Feeding:
Rods Food, Roggers Food, NLS small fish pellets or FM Ultra LPS 2x/day to LPS corals and fishes
- Fish species kept
In tank with dendros:
3 x Apogon leptacanthus
1 x Ctenochaetus strigosus
1 x Genicanthus bellus
2 x Serranocirrhitus latus
In fuge:
2 x Apogon parvulus
1 x Oxymonacanthus longirostris
1 x Ecsenius stigmatura
- Type of food fed to fishes and how often
Same as for corals
- Circulation pumps and total gph
Main pump - ATB flowstar 1500 gph
Circulation - 3 x Vortech mp10w ES at ~1400gph each
- Type of flow (laminar, alternating, random, any combination of these)
Alternating laminar
- Lighting
Overdriven 36" T5HO with high quality reflectors and Icecap 660 ballast
1 x ATI Blue Plus
2 x Giesemann Pure Actinic
1 x KZ Fiji Purple
- Lighting period
4pm - 10pm
- Other corals kept
Dendrophyllia spp.
Tubastrea spp.
Scleronephthya spp.
Various non-photosynthetic gorgonians
Cirrhipathes spiralis
Chironephthya spp.
Paraminabea spp.
Alcyonium spp. (chili coral)
Various unidentified non-photosynthetic soft corals and anemones
Palythoa spp. (photosynthetic)
- pics of the dendronephthya
D1 (9/2010 - present), purchased from Blue Zoo
This one has lost about 25% of its size. It was covered in 10+ brittle stars and stopped expanding all together for 2 weeks. After physically removing the brittle stars it has started expanding again. It is placed in a cave like area and has been stretching out towards the stronger direct current.
D2 (9/2010 - present), purchased from DD
No problems with this one so far. It took about 2 weeks to start expanding fully and has changed its shape a little probably to adapt to the flow. It appears to have grown but I haven't taken the time to count the polyps.
D3 (10/2010 - present), purchased from DD
This one has definitely changed its shape. It has become longer and skinnier. A portion of it comes into contact with a gorgonian when it bends with the current, and this seems to cause some irritation but the polyps still open. It doesn't seem to have grown and may have gotten a little smaller in the area that is in the most direct flow. This may be causing some irritation as well.
D4 (11/2010 - present), purchased from DD
This one took a couple of weeks to fully expand. It kept expanding a little more every night. It would purposely stretch itself in the direction of the nearest coral and make contact with that coral. I verified this by moving it around the tank.
Here is a burned off branch that was the result of it stretching out to touch a dendrophyllia. There are new polyps growing from the burnt tip. Other than that I haven't noticed any growth, but like the others it seems to change its shape to adapt to the flow.
D5 (12/2010 - 12/2010), purchased from DD
This one arrived practically DOA. I just want to show what an almost dead dendronephthya looks like. Stretched out but flaccid and unable to lift itself no matter how I position it. I've had it for a week and it looks better than before but still very weak. I'm waiting to see if a miracle happens, but experience tells me this one is on the way out.
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slapshot
Active member
Here is a weird one guys. So I hit an aiptasia anemone with some kalk and water and some of it fell on this dendron.
It clearly did not like that and retracted. The next morning I woke up to this:
Some how it split in two and attached itself to cave behind the original. How did it do that? Anyone have an idea? If you look in the cave you can see it is upside down, deep in the cave.
It clearly did not like that and retracted. The next morning I woke up to this:
Some how it split in two and attached itself to cave behind the original. How did it do that? Anyone have an idea? If you look in the cave you can see it is upside down, deep in the cave.
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Here is a weird one guys. So I hit an aiptasia anemone with some kalk and water and some of it fell on this dendron.
It clearly did not like that and retracted. The next morning I woke up to this:
Some how it split in two and attached itself to cave behind the original. How did it do that? Anyone have an idea? If you look in the cave you can see it is upside down, deep in the cave.
This is interesting.. Maybe like what uhuru, it might have spilted due to the kalk... I have a branch that kind of broke off from the main colony and stuck to the sand and opening well...
slapshot
Active member
Yea it's weird. I blew the kalk off of it immediately. I find it weird that it attached it's self on the top of the cave over night. The current could have pushed it into there but if you look at the picture the part came off the front. It would have have to climb over the
mother colony. I do know, it is a mystery. Does this mean they are capable of asexual reproduction?
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mother colony. I do know, it is a mystery. Does this mean they are capable of asexual reproduction?
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Hans-Werner
Member
slapshot
Active member
That explains the little one growing in the sand. Nice find Hans....thanks!
victor escobar
New member
Excuse me for interrupting a little bite your discussion but I wanted to tell you that I've got a dendronephthya umbellata that only opens during the day. Is that normal? Which are the consequences?
slapshot
Active member
Just updating. This Dendron has perished. It just disappeared. It never recovered from the Kalk incident. Interestingly it dropped a baby when i first put it in the tank. That continues to grow. The one in the cave faded away also.
Has anyone else noticed that when they go it is fast. They seem healthy then start shrinking and within a week gone. makes me wonder about their natural lifespan.
coltrref
New member
Hola Victor, gusto en saludarte en este foro y en el tema,
el topic se abrió exclusivamente para poner las caracterÃsticas de como mantenemos a las dendros, sin embargo es ya común verlas abiertas durante el dÃa y mas si están comiendo, pero lo inusual es que tú Dendro no permanezca abierta por las noches, ellas al no necesitar mucha luz, deberÃa de abrir también por las noches.
te recomiendo abrir un tema en esta área para que te den sus puntos de vistas los demás Usuarios
stormrider27
Member
Google translator:
"Hello Victor, liked to greet you here and on the subject,
topic opened exclusively to implement the features of as we keep the dendros, however is already common to see them open during the day and more if they are eating, but the unusual you Dendro stay not open at night, they do not need much light should also open at night.
I recommend you open an item in this area to give you their points of view other users"
slapshot
Active member
Been meaning to update mine anyway....I lost all mine a week ago. My mistake, I was killing Aiptasia and got kalk solution on them. They are very sensitive to that obviously because they were gone the next day, even though I immediately blew them off. I would add that I'm not sure we are there yet as they were shrinking. I continued to feed them but in my mind they were on their way out.
uhuru
New member
Recently I got a new dendro that wasn't attached to any rock. I stuck a toothpick through it and glued it to a new rock. Right now it is trying to grow new root like processes to attach to the rock. I'll keep you updated hopefully with pics soon.
The rest of my dendros are still rocking along. I am seeing the most new growth from one in particular, that is located closest to the food outlet. I've had this one for 9 months, it is named "D2" if you go back to my post on page 1. It came with little baby dendros that have increased significantly in size and polyp number (relative to what they started with). The "secret" may simply be food concentration in the water.
Also here is a more recent pic of "D4"
The dendros are quite predictable in their pattern of inflating deflating. In fact they have been trained to inflate during the times that the automatic doser is running, just like with my sun corals. Seeing a predictable pattern may be an indicator of whether your dendro has acclimated well to your system or not. No matter what they always seem to inflate the most at night when all the lights are off.
The rest of my dendros are still rocking along. I am seeing the most new growth from one in particular, that is located closest to the food outlet. I've had this one for 9 months, it is named "D2" if you go back to my post on page 1. It came with little baby dendros that have increased significantly in size and polyp number (relative to what they started with). The "secret" may simply be food concentration in the water.
Also here is a more recent pic of "D4"
The dendros are quite predictable in their pattern of inflating deflating. In fact they have been trained to inflate during the times that the automatic doser is running, just like with my sun corals. Seeing a predictable pattern may be an indicator of whether your dendro has acclimated well to your system or not. No matter what they always seem to inflate the most at night when all the lights are off.
MarineSniper
Member
Is this thread still alive? I've just moved to raising some NPS corals: sun corals and epizoanthids and would love to get some feedback and advice!
