Differences in cinnamon and tomato's ?

[Krazy]

How can one tell the differences between the cinnamon clowns and the tomatos?

I bought my clown as a cinnamon but I'm thinking it might be a tomato based on pictures I've seen and how it acts...

Shes a mean lil bugger sometimes but then OK at others...

what to look for to know for sure ?

 

[Aquatiq]

I have no idea. Even in Joyce Wilkerson's book, she merges the two species into one section, and write about them both at once.

 

[FishGuttz]

The tomatoes are really nasty and the cinnamons are really really nasty! Careful with your hands in the tank, my tomato bit me many times, ouch!

I think of tomatoes as the really bright orange ones. The cinnamon has a large area of brown on its side.

 

[ClownReef®]

A. frenatus (Tomato clowns) look like this and A. melanopus (Cinnamon clown) is this one..

 

[Eric Boerner]

Yea, Tomato's are more yellow orange with less of a black spot on their rear, more of an elongated face and body. Cinnamons are deeper red, blunt face, and the black fades evenly from the tail to mid body. Fire clowns are cinnamons, that loose their white stripe when they turn adult.

I find Tomatos more vicsous than fire clowns, but not nearly as vicous as Clarkii or Maroons.

 

[oama]

If it has red pelvic fins, chances are it's a tomato.

If it has black on the pelvic fins, chances are it's a melanopus.

 

[cl0wn]

I find Tomatos more vicsous than fire clowns, but not nearly as vicous as Clarkii or Maroons.

i find the same, have one of each and they are breeding, the male (tomato) has always been a bit more aggressive than the female (cinamon).

oama is also spot on. i'm always amazed how many LFS get it wrong and label cinamons as tomatoes !!!:rolleye1:

 

[Krazy]

Well she's defiently a cinnamon clown !!!

Thanks for the replies !

 

[oama]

<===== hits the "EASY" button

 

[Luis A M]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7999196#post7999196 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by oama
If it has red pelvic fins, chances are it's a tomato.

If it has black on the pelvic fins, chances are it's a melanopus.

Your answer was the only right,you won the prize!
At least in all the imported clowns available so far...
Now frenatus can show a narrow black border in the front pelvic fins.

 

[phender]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7998337#post7998337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Eric Boerner
Yea, Tomato's are more yellow orange with less of a black spot on their rear, more of an elongated face and body. Cinnamons are deeper red, blunt face, and the black fades evenly from the tail to mid body. Fire clowns are cinnamons, that loose their white stripe when they turn adult......

I'm not sure any of that is correct.
Tomato clowns can be a very deep red and adult females can be very black in their posterior area. They can also be almost round in their body shape.
Fire clowns are a completely different species than cimmamons and don't even live in the same geographic area.

Like Oama said the only semi-reliable way is the melanopus almost alway has completely black pelvic fins at all stages. (I'm pretty sure that melanopus means "black feet" or something similar).
Tomato clowns sometimes have black leading edges on the pelvic fins but the fins are not completely black.

 

[oama]

Luis
Yes that is true. As is the inverse.

But they are not often occured.

I was using the K.I.S.S. method.

 

[Luis A M]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8013346#post8013346 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by oama

I was using the K.I.S.S. method.

 

[Luis A M]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8011708#post8011708 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phender

(I'm pretty sure that melanopus means "black feet" or something similar).

Very right,Phender black feet in greek.
Nigripes means the same in latin

 

[oama]

I love toying with you with english/merican phrases

Keep It Simple, Stupid = K.I.S.S.

The stupid refers to me, so no one take offense. As you know, I could have gotten into a really indepth discussion. But felt it would not have benefitted the thread or the original poster, Krazy K.