Difficult and Special Care Species List - SUPERCEDED

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Fish To Be Avoided: (fish with incredibly low survivability in aquaria)


Moorish Idol (a few success stories but miniscule amounts live long, difficult feeder, mystery deaths, and even when feeding often slowly starves)

Holacanthus tricolor [Rock Beauty] (nearly impossible to meet the dietary needs in home aquaria)

Centropyge heraldi (almost always caught using drugs)
Centropyge multifasciatus
Centropyge venusta

Clown tang (VERY ich prone and a finicky eater, horrible survival rates, when they do live they can be quite mean)

Clown Sweetlips
Oriental Sweetlips

Platax pinnatus [Pinnatus Batfish] (gorgeous fish when young, very very few success stories)
Platax batavianus [Tiger Tiera Batfish]

Orange Spotted Filefish (specialized coral polyp feeder)

Most Butterlyfish (except those listed below)

Ribbon Eels (rarely eat in captivity)
Snake Eels
Garden Eels

Cleaner Wrasses (specialized parasite feeder, leave them in the ocean where they can do their job)
Anampses sp. Wrasses (VERY poor shippers and need tanks with their special needs in mind, even then they often perish)
Leopard (Macropharyngodon) Wrasses (see above but there are more success stories, must be kept in reef aquariums)
Pseodojuloides Wrasses (very dificult to keep alive, they almost always die in transit so you don't see them very often if ever)

Parrotfish

Tilefish (VERY timid and difficult to get to eat, also excellent at carpet surfing)

Rays

Skates

Sharks (too large for even huge aquariums)

Grunts

Jacks

Drums

Trumpetfish

Remoras (unless you have a large Shark or Whale in youir backyard iceanarium probably not a good idea)

Chambered Nautilus ( a plethora of reasons to leave them in the ocean, not a single good reason to add one to an aquarium)



Fish Best Left For Experienced Hobbyists:
(finicky nature, parasite prone, specialty feeders, require specialty tanks or threatened species)



Anthias (some can do fairly well when kept with less aggressive fish, others require special tanks with their needs in mind)
Twinspot Anthias (the anthias here are borderline, but I feel the overly finicky and difficult nature of these two deserve special notice)
Square Anthias (collection methods and stress after collection seem to be especially problematic)

Platax tiera (can ve hardy once acclimated but can be problems feeds, stress easily, and are disease prone)

Regal Angelfish (Red Sea Specimens tend to be hardier and more willing to accept prepared foods and the more recent trend to keep this fish in reef aquariums helps with survivability)
Bicolor Angelfish (concerns with drugs used in collection and unwillingness to accept prepared foods)
Genicanthus sp. angelfish (hardy once acclimated, but lots of problem specimens due to the depths they are usually caught at)

Garibaldi (coldwater species and protected)

Trunkfish [Box and Cowfish] (most are rather sensitive and can release toxins when stresed or dying)

Clown and Gumdrop gobies (poor shipper, once established a good surviver with less boisterous fish)
Catalina gobies (coldwater species that will not do well longterm in tropical temps)
Mandarin dragonettte (requires large amounts of live food typically which can be provided naturally in 50+ gal. tanks with a good amount of live rock)

Radiata Lionfish
Fu manchu Lionfish (All the dwarf Lions require something bordering a species tank, the later two are also very sensitive)
Dwarf Zebra Lionfish

Anglerfish (many get very large and can consume fish enarly their own size)

Acanthurus sp. tangs (ich prone, Achilles, Powder Blue, Powder Brown, and Goldrim are rather finicky and beginners should be especially leary)

Ctenochaetus tangs (ich prone, some of the hardier tangs once established, the Chevrom being the least hardy)

All Butterflyfish (except vagabond, longnose, Heniochus, golden, pebbled, Klein's, Lemon, Auriga and Racoon, which need large tanks)

Seahorses (need species tanks and special diets)
Seadragons (very rare and I'm unaware of and longtern success)
Pipefish (see Seahorses)

Anthias (require a good amount of swimming room, peaceful tankmates, and frequent feedings, often unhealthy and starving by the time they make it to dealers tanks)

Longnose hawkfish (jumper and be careful with ornamental shrimp)

Octopus (must have species tanks, lots of swimming room, and should probably be on the above list)
Cuttlefish (similar to Octopus, but slightly higher success rates)
Squid

Porcupine pufferfish (very disease prone)

Fairy wrasses [Paracheilinus and Cirrilabrus sp.] (require peaceful tanks and do best in reef aquariums, they stress and the first few weeks in captivity will often make or break their longevity)

Leopard Blenny [Exallias brevis] (specialized coral feeders)
Scooter Blenny (see Mandarin Dragonettes)
Lawnmower Blenny (will sometimes not accept prepared foods and will starve to death in tanks without a natural algae food source)

Sandhopper

Sleeper gobies (Valenciennea sp.) (Often starve to death even when accepting prepared foods, tanks with large sandbeds containing lots of food will help as will frequent feedings when they will eat, mated pairs may help)
Rainford's Goby (often will not accept prepared foods, need established tanks with a sandbed full of life)
Twinspot Goby (mated pairs in large tanks with established sandbeds will help)

Bangaii/Borneo Cardinals [Pterapogon kauderni]




Fish That Require Huge Aquariums (200 gallons or more)


Sharks (require much larger than 200 gal. and should just be left out of home aquaria, Nurse sharks can grow to 14ft. long! Repeating this one so it sinks in)

Most Groupers (especially take note of the cute little Panther Groupers)

Snappers (those cute little Red Emperor Snappers get big)

Naso sp. Tangs (Many will even outgrow common sizes like 125 gal. aquariums)

Moray Eels (large species)

Soldierfish

Orbi and Spade Batfish

Twinspot wrasse (Coris aygula) (beginners take special note of these three as they're often offered as cute juveniles, they get very large and very mean)
Red coris wrasse
Dragon wrasse

Flounder

Tassled filefish (often offerer when cute and tiny)

Many Large Angels (when purchasing any angelfish that isn't Centropyge be sure to check their ultimate size: take special note of the FRench, Gray, Blue, and Queen whcih are often offered as cute little juvenilles)



Venomous Species


Stonefish (can be deadly)

Lionfish

Rabbitfish

Scorpionfish

Coral Catfish (these also get up to a foot long and no longer school once larger)

Bluering Octopus (can be deadly)

Toadfish



Extremely Aggressive Species


Undulated Trigger (the meanest auqarium fish available in all likelyhood)
Queen Triggerfish (not quite as bad as the Undulated, but pretty close and they get very large)
Clown Triggerfish (pretty similar in demeanor to the above two)
Blueline Trigger (not so bad when young but a beast once it grows, perhaps the least aggressive of the four)

Passer Angelfish (probably the meanest of all Angelfish, I've seen them takeover tanks)

Damselfish (they're not all bad, but once for once some of them are the meanest fish around, think twice about adding them as some of your first specimens)

Maroon Clownfish (females get quite large and they can get quite mean and bully any tankmates that dare come close, they're also probably the least tolerant of other clown species)

Sohal Tang (hardier than the Clown Tang but just about as mean, probably best to keep them as the lone Tang and if you must keep one in a community reef tank make it your last fish addition)



Inverts To Be Avoided Or Better Left To Experts:


Non-photosynyhetic corals and Gorgonids [Sun polyps, Carnation, Devils Hand, Chili Coral, etc.] (if it's a soft coral and not green or brown in part and is very vividly colored odds are it's non-photosynthetic and requires more small particles of food than most aquarists are willing to provide. The only non photosynthetic stoney corals frequently seen are Tubastrea sp., frequent feedings of meatier foots can lead to success)

Christmas Tree Worms (filters feeders that rarely live long in home aquaria)

Goniopora sp. (some strides have been made but still miserably low survival rates)

Feather stars (require huge amounts of flow and large amounts of tiny planktonic organisms)
Basket stars
Crown of thorns (duh :p)
Linkia stars (disease issues and poor acclimation to aquarium life, problem feeders as well)

Wild small-polyped scleractinian (SPS) corals that are not frags (wild colonies can be particularly adapted to flow and light from their natural environment and often do poorly once in aquaria)

Sea Apples (often slowly waste away in starve to death if not offered large amounts of food appropriate for filter feeders, also chances of toxins being released and possibly killing other organisms)

Sea Pens (still offered in the aquarium trade and very poor survival for this filter feeder)

Giant Xenia (this one rarely does well once established and like most other xenia does not ship well)

Sea Slugs and Nudibranchs (very few exceptions)

Flame Scallop (filter feeders that usually waste away in home aquaria)

Anemones (most anemones should be placed in specialty tanks and also have very poor survival rates)
Bright yellow anemones (dyed; and done most commonly with Sebae, but also seen with Long Tentacle and Carpet anemones far less frequently )

Harlequin/Clown Shrimp (must have live feeder starfish to survive)
Camel/Mechanical shrimp (Not reef safe but often sold as as such)

Elegance Coral (recent poor survival possibly due to a disease, other factors might relate to them coming from higher nutrient environments)

Red Serpent Starfish

Organ Pipe Coral [Tubipora Musica] (often hacked off from a larger colony, recent survival seems better than in the past)

Large Sponges (often hacked off from large colonies of their rock base, also exposed to air for too long which leads to their demose, bright orange and yellow colors are common)



Special Notes


Clownfish [Amphiprion sp.] (various species often acclimate poorly to aquarium life and sugger greatly from collection stress, I've seen estimates that as little as five percent of those collected live to be in home aquaria, when possible buy tank raised specimens)

Bangaii/Borneo Cardinals [Pterapogon kauderrni] (rather limited in range and rumors of an unsustainable population if the current rate of collection continues, there are also stories of poor survival after collection)

Tangs (should have larger aquarium to provide them plenty of swimming room, no you a tang is not suitable for your nano cube or 29 gallon tank, when small 3'-4' aquariums can be suitable though not recommended by many, just be sure you're planning an upgrade in the near future as they can grow fast)

Zoanthids (some of these can contain Palytoxin which can be quite dangerous and make you very sick, it's not always the case but if you want to err on the side of caution rubber gloves are a good idea when handling them as are goggles when fragging them)
 
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This is a list I satrted over 10 years ago. As far as I know it was the first of its kind and was used in a couple different publications and several LFS across the country. It has gone through some changes through the years but sadly many of the species listed have not changed. I've made special side notes for animals that are frequently encountered in the hobby.

I made this list in hopes of people avoiding problem species and ultimately their collection rates going down. It seems to have happened with some of the listed species. For example, you no longer see Rock Beauty Angels at nearly every LFS which once was the case.

If anyone thinks of something that I'm missing pleae feel free to chime in. I welcome criticism of the list, but please try to avoid the stories of how you have such and such fish and it has been doing great for 6 months. I also welcome people pointing out spelling errors and typos, I did not run it through a spell checker since it would have had a fit.

The list is not perfect and you may disagree with some of the listings. This is mostly info that I've compiled in my head through the years and is based on personal experience and opinions with the ocassional info that I've learned from books. For instance, I've never personally kept a shark, but I think it's safe to say that in most cases they should be left in the ocean. Sadly that doesn't seem to be such common sense to many people.

Hopefully some of you find this list helpful and somewhat informative. I tried to make info short and sweet since this could have quickly become a book. I avoided using all scientific names for ease of use for beginners and partially lack of motivation on my part :p
 
Great list, Peter!
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Not sure if you wanted to add the long spine urchins to your list of potentially venomous species - Diadema sp? Technically a puncture wound from their spines can be venomous or cause allergic reactions.

Spleen
 
very nice list. I think you hit the higher risk species often encountered. Some problems I have with the list though: octopus, cuttlefish, and nautilus are all inverts, not fish, and octos do fairly well when handled by knowledgeable people. they do have short life spans though, which means people could be geting old octos, they die and give perception of failure. Also, seahorses are much easier to care for if CB because they will usually eat frozen foods, meaning a beginner willing to research and buy CB Seahorses could potentially keep them. And even I plan to pick up a bluestriped pipefish trained to eat cyclopeeze. of course, more often than not people think the above species just look cool and will buy them w/o research, so you are more than justified to put the on there.

Dan

ps you may notice a few spelling mistakes. i'm writing this on a cell phone so...yeah
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10289452#post10289452 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Pea-brain
very nice list. I think you hit the higher risk species often encountered. Some problems I have with the list though: octopus, cuttlefish, and nautilus are all inverts, not fish, and octos do fairly well when handled by knowledgeable people. they do have short life spans though, which means people could be geting old octos, they die and give perception of failure. Also, seahorses are much easier to care for if CB because they will usually eat frozen foods, meaning a beginner willing to research and buy CB Seahorses could potentially keep them. And even I plan to pick up a bluestriped pipefish trained to eat cyclopeeze. of course, more often than not people think the above species just look cool and will buy them w/o research, so you are more than justified to put the on there.

Dan

ps you may notice a few spelling mistakes. i'm writing this on a cell phone so...yeah

I've gone back and forth on where to include the Cephalopods, I ended up grouping them in with the fish since they're smarter than off of them and simply calling them an invertebrate would be an insult ;) If you look at the list again everything you mention is under the label "Fish better left for experienced hobbyists: (finicky nature, parasite prone, specialty feeders, require specialty tanks, or threatened species)". I feel they all qualify rather well for that section even if a beginner could maintain them with enough research. Tossing any of the things you mentioned in your average reef tank would be a pretty bad idea.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10289444#post10289444 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by spleen93
Great list, Peter!
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Not sure if you wanted to add the long spine urchins to your list of potentially venomous species - Diadema sp? Technically a puncture wound from their spines can be venomous or cause allergic reactions.

Spleen

I've thought about it... There are some other venomous urchins, cone shells, jellyfish, sea snakes, etc., anemones with really strong stings, etc. I always wanted the focus of the list to help more with awareness of difficult to keep species so the venomous part was kind of an afterthought and mainly aimed at letting beginners know that petting their Foxface probably isn't a good idea. If others feel I should expand that part I'm certainly open to doing so. There are also fish with venomous bites, poisonous mucus coratings, etc, that I've left off for the same reason as pointed out above.

I wish I could go back and edit! I'm seeing lots of little mistakes and it's driving me nuts :( Keep in mind I worked on the list lastnight for the first time in years and it's still being refined. I just wish RC wasn't making things so tough when it comes to editing it.
 
Great work, Peter. Lots of info. to help newbs and vets alike. I didn't realize a red coris wrasse needed so much room and didn't realize anthias could be difficult. I cringe when I see things like skates and remoras at the LFS and often wonder, who buys these things? Knowledge and awareness is the only way to mitigate problems with collection practices. This thread should be a permanent thread in the reef fishes forum.
 
Awesome info - should be stuck to the top for everyone to read as well as in the "New to the Hobby" forum.

Thanks for taking the time to post this.
 
Clownfish [Amphiprion sp.] (various species often acclimate poorly to aquarium life and sugger greatly from collection stress, I've seen estimates that as little as five percent of those collected live to be in home aquaria, when possible buy tank raised specimens)

Agreeed agreed and agreed

clowns wild caught are some of THE hardest fish to keep and acclimate, Living in bangkok I see an awful amount of fish here come in on a weekly basis and die I estimate of all the fish I have seen int last three years less than 1 percent are alive now, for the following reasons:
poor shipping
unsuitable holding facilities
lack of consumer education as regards qt and other basic needs such as temp fluctuations salinity etc.
mixing fish in holding tanks

not just clowns but all fish the amount of regal tangs I have seen dead or dying here is obscene
Its all about the money in asia due to people being so poor and it will continue while ever we want fish unfortunatly.

On a brighter note there is a reef club here now that raises awareness and there are more and more captive raised ocellaris and percs and maroons avaliable so maybe change is trying to happen,,

lps sps and anemones are illegal to collect or own here but the black market is massive.
 
Got to add my thanks to the others. I'm sure you wouldn't have done it if it were not for a level of enjoyment - perhaps even a sense of duty - but I'm sure it took a fair amount of time. THIS THREAD SHOULD BE A STICKY - to get the attention and timely updates.

Again, thanks:D
-rw
 
Thanks for the kind words everyone! Now if only "sugger" were a real word that last special section was quickly composed late last night and it shows... :(
 
Well done! I applaud your efforts and dedication to the hobby. I second a sticky! This information is priceless for beginners.
 
Great post, should be stickied in the New to the Hobby forum.

However, there was one thing on the list that didn't seem to belong, that is the Longnose Hawkfish. I have had several and have found them to be hardy, interesting fish. I have also never lost a shrimp to one either.
 
Did a bunch of editing and took some of your suggestions into account. Hopefully I can get a mod to replace the first list with this one...
 
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