Dinoflagellates and snails

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I lost all of my Mexican large turbos snails after Dinoflagellates took over 25% of my live rock, but none of the other snails die . like "Astraea, Trochus".
please vote your experience with your snails if you had or have the Dinoflagellates.

 

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I 'm trying to get the moderator to fix this so we can pick two
options. One from the Turbos and one from the Astraea- Trochus

 

[reeferman06]

what areDinoflagellates

 

[dc]

I don't think there is a way for multiple choice. Maybe we could add a couple choices with multiple answers tho.

How's that?

 

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Thanks dc that will do.

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8308474#post8308474 target=_blank>Originally posted</a>

Here is a picture of the dino's :rolleye1:

 

[reeferman06]

those bubbles? I have a small patch of that near my acro

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8309875#post8309875 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeferman06
those bubbles? I have a small patch of that near my acro

Yes they release toxins in the water and if the snails eat them it will poison them to death. they are very common in our tanks.

 

[reeferman06]

GEEEEZ..... if it isnt one thing its another!!!

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8310000#post8310000 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by reeferman06
GEEEEZ..... if it isnt one thing its another!!!

You telling me i lost 30 very large turbo snails my water parameters when to crap still fighting them.

 

[sabodish]

i lost over 100 astreas and trbos when i had dino...

 

[gilpster]

in sharp contrast to the above i lost all my snails apart from the mexican turbo snails which seemed unperturbed!

(dinoflagellates confirmed by microscopy)

 

[john rochon]

DINOS arn't really that common but seem to be catching on? I know, I've been fighting for a long time and I'm finally winning!!!
TURBOS from what I remember especially MEXICAN turbos don't fare well in the reef tank temperatures. there colder climate snails. I'm not 100% positive but I'm pretty sure so its no suprize they don't last. for whatever reason I lost most of my snails but a few survived.

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8310988#post8310988 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by john rochon
DINOS arn't really that common but seem to be catching on? I know, I've been fighting for a long time and I'm finally winning!!!
TURBOS from what I remember especially MEXICAN turbos don't fare well in the reef tank temperatures. there colder climate snails. I'm not 100% positive but I'm pretty sure so its no suprize they don't last. for whatever reason I lost most of my snails but a few survived.

Yes they don't like temperatures over 79F i keep them at 76F -78F with them growing to a lemon size for many years.

 

[GreshamH]

Do a google on Sea of Cortez temps. THe Turbos are collected near the top of the Sea of Cortez, where is can get into the 90's. Almost all "Mexican Turbos" come from there. It's not the temp of the water that gets em, it's how they were handled during the COC (chain of custody). Most seem to be gang bagged in 1000 lots, in very small amounts of water. To add to the problem, they're routinly cooked on the border crossing in the van used to move them. Basicly, they're stewed in ammonia

I have 5 year old baja turbos in my tank

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8312165#post8312165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Do a google on Sea of Cortez temps. THe Turbos are collected near the top of the Sea of Cortez, where is can get into the 90's. Almost all "Mexican Turbos" come from there. It's not the temp of the water that gets em, it's how they were handled during the COC (chain of custody). Most seem to be gang bagged in 1000 lots, in very small amounts of water. To add to the problem, they're routinly cooked on the border crossing in the van used to move them. Basicly, they're stewed in ammonia

I have 5 year old baja turbos in my tank

They like cool water they slow down some when my water temp is up to 80F. no i never had any Turbos die from the tank water been to hot but they die if they eat any of the dino's.

 

[GreshamH]

Like I said though (coming from some one that worked for a baja exporter for many years) the Sea of Cortez can get into the 90's half the year. The snails are exposed many hours of the day to air temps into the low 100's, and surface temps into the 90's. Dying from dino's, now thats a whole different problem, and one I've never experienced. I was just rebutting the quote you had in your post about being from cold waters That quote is true for some, like 1% of "mexican turbos", but not the other 99%.

 

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8312434#post8312434 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by GreshamH
Like I said though (coming from some one that worked for a baja exporter for many years) the Sea of Cortez can get into the 90's half the year. The snails are exposed many hours of the day to air temps into the low 100's, and surface temps into the 90's. Dying from dino's, now thats a whole different problem, and one I've never experienced. I was just rebutting the quote you had in your post about being from cold waters That quote is true for some, like 1% of "mexican turbos", but not the other 99%.

That was not me i said they like the water lower than 80F a little cooler than most reefers keep there tanks . But i had no problems with them even at 80F just they get slower at higher temp .


john rochon said

MEXICAN turbos don't fare well in the reef tank temperatures. there colder climate snails.