Diy led

I am going to build a led setup for my 75 and was wanting suggestions on bulb selection. I am ordering a kit from reefledlights.com. The bulbs are Cree xre q5s 3w. It is going to be a 72 bulb setup and the color options are cool white and royal blue what ratio should I go with to get a 14k look
 
I think 60/40 if I have been paying attention correctly. That being 60% Blue and 40% white as the White are very bright as you saw! If you want to fine tune it you can add different colors to the mix to tune it to your likeing.
Bill
 
The guy from the website recommends 2 to 1 blue to white just wanted some feed back. The heatsink that comes with the kit is 18x8 there will be two of them kinda pendant style. Being that my tank is 48 long should I go with 90 degree optics to avoid spotlighting
 
from the website I saw 2White:3Blue you get 20,000K, 3White:2Blue you get 12,000K.

I will probably get 12,000K, couple red(to get purple ish looking), with 4 PS.
 
from the website I saw 2White:3Blue you get 20,000K, 3White:2Blue you get 12,000K.

I will probably get 12,000K, couple red(to get purple ish looking), with 4 PS.

So...in other words, in theory...probably 2white:2blue should be abouts 14K...being, uhh 1:1...I'm sure Bill will correct the theory though...as I've seen the same specs for 14K on 3 other LED manufacturer websites and forums...
 
Other question...are these kits from reefledlights a plug, screw, & glue application with no soldering required?
 
they do need soldering I think, unless you buy their strips.

"Everything you need for a DIY Retro except for 20-22 gauge and solder. "
 
For two 36 led kits it will be 715 shipped. I get a small discount if I order two kits. Do you guys think it's worth it? Maybe I can see if we can get some sort of group buy discount if anyone is interested.
 
36*2*3= 216 is somewhat equal to 700w MH. it's 9.3w per gallon for you.. I think you don't need that much. just my 2 cents.
 
gannmann,

Personally, I don't think you need a all in one kit. people like Bill, Brandon and myself, are not using a kit and just getting the supplies separately. I don't know what the price difference is, if any, but just make sure what you are getting. I agree with bill that a 60/40 mix is the best (from what I have read), but I would keep your options open to fine tuning that combo to suite your needs. Also, you will always need to solder the LED connections, however I dont recommend glue for the mounting of the LEDS. That is a permanent method and also the glue can potentially be toxic. I know it takes more time, but I would use the thermal paste and screw method. This will take more time but will be easier to replace burned out LED's in the future. The only thing to watch out for is grounding the LED to the heat sink. Just my opinion, I'm glad to see others switching to LED's.

Jon
 
tomstill thanks for the info where did you guys buy your led stuff from? How many leds to you think i need for my 75 gallon tank? i have had two people reccommend 72 3watts is that overkill? if palagic is right that would be way to much light imo
 
Brandon recommended to me the site Rapid LED. As far as the amount of LED's, I dont have a good answer for you. From what it seems, it really depends on what optics you use (if any).

I wouldn't think that 72 is too much, however you could always just take off some of the optics to adjust your light levels to your preference. Thats why I like the DIY concept on this. you can add and mix and match to suite your needs. I think that is the approach bill is using on his build.
 
Brandon recommended to me the site Rapid LED. As far as the amount of LED's, I dont have a good answer for you. From what it seems, it really depends on what optics you use (if any).

I wouldn't think that 72 is too much, however you could always just take off some of the optics to adjust your light levels to your preference. Thats why I like the DIY concept on this. you can add and mix and match to suite your needs. I think that is the approach bill is using on his build.
 
The Major issue i see with thos heat sinks is the 8" width, You will not be happy with that even on an 18" tank you will have dead zones Both front and back. That is why i Widened my fixture to 16" wide from 8" the way they came.
On another note with unfinished fixture (38 More LED's will be added) The Par level is around 350-360 at 10" below the surface, 1400 or some crazy # below the cool whites and very good numbers all around the tank for a light that is not even completed yet.
I'm very Happy with these #'s as they closely match where my Halides and T5Ho's were running.
Bill
 
So bill you pick up the parmeter then. Let me know when your done with it. Jen needabiggertank is next. And like to test these fixture I got in today before I ship them out to people.
 
bill i was worried about the 8" wide heatsink as well. when i asked the guy about changing the width he said i would want the leds that close but i thought that would give me a spotlight effect. the hood on my tank is going to put the leds about 4 inches from the the water. 8" wide heatsink at that height would probably look like to spotlights for sure.
 
gannmann9876 - There are a few things to look at when buying parts. I've tried to quickly skim the thread and would like to throw in my 2 cents, if it helps.

Buying a kit is fine, however, like suggested, sometimes it might be better to buy the parts individually. I've bought from RapidLED and ETG Tech. ETG Tech may ultimately end up being the best price as they are one of the major suppliers of the LEDs to most of the online diy stores. There might be a minimum order though. It's been a while since I ordered from them, so you may want to check.

In addition, the kit is supplying only CW and RB LEDs. What people have been discovering is that there is a loss in coral coloration when only using those two dies. So people are now experimenting a mixture of CW, RB, neutral whites, warm whites, and regular blues to increase the spectrum and bring out the color. I haven't gotten the chance to run those colors yet but I am running a red LED. Brandon knows more about this and can probably give better advice.

I've currently been running a 1:1 CW:RB set up. I would say it's about 10-14k, depending on which MH bulb you're comparing ;) I like the look of the color personally as it's pretty crisp. A 60/40 mixture is will probably look nice as well.

On the question of whether or not 72 LEDs is enough. LEDs aren't about watts per gallon IMO. The thing with LEDs is that you need a sufficient number to maximize the spread. It works differently than MHs in which are an intense point source. Various factors come into play like the optics you are using and how high the fixture will be off the top of your tank. For instance, if you are using 40 optics, then you will need to space the LED's closer together. In that case, you will need more LEDs to cover the spread.

In addition, optics are what drives the intensity of the LEDs. The more narrow the optics, the more intense they will be. For comparison, a 250w MH will be similar to LEDs with 40-60 degree optics. 150w MH will be around 60-80ish. You will need more narrow optics the deeper down you go. So if you have a tall tank, then you may want at least 60-80 degree optics. But then again, this will also depend on the type of corals that you were wanting to keep. Good thing about optics is that they are easily replaceable and relatively cheap to switch out.

About the heat sink, look at HeatsinkUSA and compare prices. That's where most of the online stores are getting their heat sinks and they carry a 10" wide one.
 
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is there a way to only have one plugg for 2 or 3 drivers? i think i am going to go with 60 3w leds on two different heat sinks at 18x10. i am going to order a 48 bulb kit at 2 to 1 royal blues to cool whites and the other 12 are going to be warm whites and a different blue mixed in thru out. what do ya think
 
Tagging along as I'm about to start my 240g build and I am planning building my own led. I am curious about how many red's people are using.


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