DIY leds and profilux 1-10v

nanotank

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Who has done this and if you have do you have any pics as to how you hook everything up? I am starting a large led build and want to be able to dim everything like my profilux and AI setup at my office. I will be using 14-16 mean well d drivers to do all this for a total of 168 or 192 leds. Any info you could give me and or pics would be great.

Thanks, Jeff
 
Who has done this and if you have do you have any pics as to how you hook everything up? I am starting a large led build and want to be able to dim everything like my profilux and AI setup at my office. I will be using 14-16 mean well d drivers to do all this for a total of 168 or 192 leds. Any info you could give me and or pics would be great.

Thanks, Jeff
Have you looked into the inherent danger of running that many eln drivers?
 
Since the 10v is simply a reference signal than you can run multiple meanwell drive off the same signal. The question is how many you can run safely.
 
i am running 3 per 10v channel. I used to have an Aqua Illumination set up and you could dim to a very low level (barely on). Now that I am using meanwell drivers 60-48d and when the dimming gets below 10% the lights cut off. So not much control over dimming on the low end. I changed the profilux 1-10 v output to output 0-10v and it actualy does this (verified with multimeter).

Here are some shots of my lights and my tank.


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You cna run 3 drivers off of one channel max per channel is 30mA however GHL advise not driving as high as this to take into account any potential loading spikes.

If the 1-10V output is set to 0V and you still find the driver does not shut off completely then this is restriction of the driver. I do suggest using the EVG card to adopt 100% safe 110V isolation at 0V and make sure the drivers are completely off.
 
The EVG card automates things one step further and provides a wiring interface.

Benefits -
Do not have to utilise a power bar socket to switch off drivers
assured mains isolation at zero volt values
No need for timers to switch off drivers
Can control two channels independantly on one board
Cheap!
 
Ok thats cool.. Man I was under the impression though with the MW d drivers and the 0-10v source from the profi u could do thunderstorms, lightning and cloud cover the same as the ai units off profi. If this is not the case I am very upset I have spent so much money on these dang DIY parts. I would have just went AI, PS or vertex...
 
Nope never been stated or advsertised anywhere the thunderstorm function was a standard feature for DIY, but potentially with the PWM module this may now change.

If looking for manufacturered LED's then look at Pacific Sun contact me directly for details.
 
couple of things from my build. if you use the D series instead of the PWN series drivers you can get the dimming curve starting at 5% instead of 10%, although visually you can't tell the difference. If you are looking for true sunrise/sunset i'm afraid you'll be dissapointed. the ELN series, specifically the 60-48 is built this way and you can't get around this unless you could hotwire some kind of microcontroller for a super-duper slow duty cycle.

As for thunderstorms/lighting etc. as far as I know, very few controllers can do this and probably none can do it with DIY. Lightning is a neat gimmick but don't get hung up over it, it's not that big a deal.

Any limitations here are definitely a driver limitation. Perhaps you might look at the buckpucks? I thought i saw that they have a new one that can handle more than 6 LED's. Or look into the homebuilt ones, I know DWMZ has a monster thread on here discussing it.

Also, check the prof forum. I think someone had a way to wire more than 3 meanwells per channel safely.

Second, this driver has a built-in safety measure for capacitance discharge (don't ask me the details, i don't understand it all) so the lights will flash when hitting 0%.
 
Ok thats cool.. Man I was under the impression though with the MW d drivers and the 0-10v source from the profi u could do thunderstorms, lightning and cloud cover the same as the ai units off profi. If this is not the case I am very upset I have spent so much money on these dang DIY parts. I would have just went AI, PS or vertex...

yeah, its a bit of a bummer, but any of those systems would cost you 4x more than DIY parts. I thought about that before i built mine, but the cost to get to a full sunrise/sunset is just too prohibitive.

You just have to remember that the strength of the DIY LED build is the total control (well almost total) over the dimming curve. This is the primary benefit. Color matching, energy savings are the secondary benefit. Everything else (such as sunrise/sunset) is a nice perk if you can get it done, but shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Once you are done with it, you really won't be as dissapointed as you think.
 
Yea i am sure I will love it.. Ilove my AI on my cube with the features it will do. I was hoping to be able to do them with the diy setup also. Its not a deal breaker I guess cause my 4-400 watters I am replacing and my ic660 with t5's did not have any of these features either I guess. I may sell the stuff though and try the PS or I got a hell of a price for a set of 6-8 AI sol blues too...
 
I would be able to run blues at 100% and whites at like 30% with no problem correct? These r not the %'s I am looking at using just a question...
 
You cna run 3 drivers off of one channel max per channel is 30mA however GHL advise not driving as high as this to take into account any potential loading spikes.

If the 1-10V output is set to 0V and you still find the driver does not shut off completely then this is restriction of the driver. I do suggest using the EVG card to adopt 100% safe 110V isolation at 0V and make sure the drivers are completely off.

I don't believe this is completely correct. While three is the limit, the current capacity of the Profilux is 10mA per channel. Each Meanwell ELN-60-48D draws 3.3mA on it's dimming line.
 
30mA is the max and 10ma is the advisary taking into account driver surges and circuit protection.

Simply put its is not advisable to run a car with your foot to the metal constantly
 
As for thunderstorms/lighting etc. as far as I know, very few controllers can do this and probably none can do it with DIY. Lightning is a neat gimmick but don't get hung up over it, it's not that big a deal.

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I have am atmega based scratch built controller, that will do lightning well enough. The biggest problem is that the code involved is mind numbingly complex. Not something the average DIY builder would ever even attempt, and to be honest I don't think I would try it again. It was way more work, than it was worth.

PS love your username. almost bought one, but pontiac had to quit on me.
 
As for thunderstorms/lighting etc. as far as I know, very few controllers can do this and probably none can do it with DIY. Lightning is a neat gimmick but don't get hung up over it, it's not that big a deal.

This now changes with the launch of LED Control-4 this will make ProfiLux the ONLY controller that can provide all weather patterns including storm to DIY builds and also multiple LED systems
 
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