DIY skimmer!

Andrew

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It's getting there. I need to get a new T to replace the white one. Next is to order a sedra 9000 and make a new venturi for it. The cup will hold a little over 1/2 a gallon. The Main chamber is a 6'' tube that's 30'' tall. The outlet pipe is 2''.

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Here's what it will be replacing. Pretty big jump with with around 125 gallons of water running in this system, I'm going to need it. Very old picture but for size comparison, it's in a 10 gallon and the cup only holds one standard cup.

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I take it that you are going to be adjusting the water height by adjusting the ball valve on the exit pipe?

If so, you will want to rework that. I had a similar setup on my skimmer and everytime I shut off the return pump and turned it back on I would overflow the skimmer. I literally dumped about two gallons of water everytime.

You need to do most of the water height adjustment by adjusting the height of the tee on the exit pipe, then do fine adjustments with a gate valve.

HTH
Keith
 
Wait, hows the return pump effecting the skimmer? The water level in the sump will stay pretty much the same.
 
My skimmer is gravity fed from the overflows. I guess yours is not. My bad.

Still is you turn off your skimmer feed pump the water in the skimmer will drain out until it gets the the level of the tee.

The reason I was getting the overflow from the skimmer is that adjusting the height by a valve creates back pressure and when the skimmer feed water changes it takes a while for the back pressure to readjust.

Keith
 
Since It's not a Rec. Skimmer, wouldn't the water drain out through the sedra 9000 ( when turned off ) and level off with the height of the water in the sump?
 
It's ok. I really hope this works out. I was planning on a gate valve but the lady at the plastic warehouse brought out the wrong one ( her fault ) and she gave it to me for $20 and it was a $50 some dollar ball valve so I just took that one. I didn't want to wait another 20 minutes while she went to get it the right one.
 
i just changed from ball to gate as the ball is very hard to get precise adjustment which most skimmers require. I would have waited the extra 20 min :)
 
After standing and waiting for 45 minutes, I was ready to go and this ball valve is very good one and isnt hard to turn at all like some.
 
I agree, you will be amazed at the difference from a ball valve to a gate valve, sometimes on a gate valve i make adjustments about 1/8 of a turn you'll never get that on a ball valve no matter how easy it is to turn,
i'm also concerned about a 30" high chamber with a venturi, you may not be able to pull enough air thru it from th head presure, you may have to add a air pump to the venturi.
 
That's going to be a mean skimmer when you're done. You'll like the Sedra.

I once used a Sedra 9000 on a PVC skimmer I made. The pump turned out to be too big. My skimmer was only about 25" tall including the cup. Too bad, I ened up with a GX-2400 to run it.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7874176#post7874176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by comatose
I agree, you will be amazed at the difference from a ball valve to a gate valve, sometimes on a gate valve i make adjustments about 1/8 of a turn you'll never get that on a ball valve no matter how easy it is to turn,
i'm also concerned about a 30" high chamber with a venturi, you may not be able to pull enough air thru it from th head presure, you may have to add a air pump to the venturi.

How high should I make it then? Is there another pump you would recommend? The problem is, if I go with a smaller pump, it may not be able to pump up and out of the 2'' outlet pipe.
 
You might look into the Ocean Runner 3700. I am building a 11" diameter 25" tall skimmer with two 3700s.

They pull a ton of air.
Keith
 
They are both 900 gph and are both needlewheels. I plan on making a new venturi anyways if I would get the 9000. If I added an airpump to it, then wouldn't the water level drop alot since there would be less flow. I tried that with a 3'' tube skimmer and a rio 600. Without the airpump ( had a valve on it to control it ) the water level would go up 6''
 
I don't think you needed a 2" tube for the outflow, 1-1/4" probably would have been enough, 1-1/2 at most, what pump are you using to add water to the skimmer.
the sedra you plan on using is just for a recirc pump right?

I think all your measurments are fine(except for the outflow tube), it's just that using a venturi on a 30" high chamber you may have trouble sucking air into it cause of the head pressure. and the venturi may need help with a air pump. you'll still suck air in, it just may not be enough.
I would still add the venturi and see how it works and if your not sucking enuf air then add the air pump or get rid of the venturi and then just add the air directly like i did.
Most people who use a venturi, build there skimmers 24" or less in height if they don't want to use an air pump.
I would still build the skimmer the way you want, i'm just pointing out what problems you may run into.
remember you can always modify it if it doesn't work the way you thought, I modified mine once after i built it and now works pretty good.
everyone's skimmer is different because not everyone has their plumbing in the same place(higher or lower),or use a different pump, have a different neck, use differnt size venturi's, there are many varables, build yours and make adjustments.
 
The sedra 9000 would be the feedpump. I don't plan on having a Rec. pump. I already drilled the hole for the 2'' pipe. The pump output into the skimmer will be 8-9'' from the bottom of the skimmer stand. How high could the sedra 9000 pump up a 2'' pipe?
 
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