do you have a probem with your LFS?

well here in rochester there are a ton of lfs lets see there marine osais-john knows his stuff and has decent prices most of the time, caribean forest-they have awsome stuff there staf knows alot but there prices are wayyyyy to high at least for me! then there is pet world-they dont know anything, live stock is always sick and dont have a good selection, and then there is abc is penfield....nothing but good things to say about them AMAZING prices, family owned they know alot and even thou sometime they dont have the most in stock what they do have is healthy and very nice
 
i went to buy an alk kit and after i paid and was ready to leave, some guy who wasnt taking care of me near the register says "ya just make sure you get the sample all the way at the bottom of the tank," acting real cool and all. i was like oooook
 
Theres the real lfs that know what there doing, and helping people with the hobby, than you have the other lfs that are just in it for the money. Mine seems to be in for a little of both (expensive as hell.)
 
I live in los angeles and have about 8 lfs. they all have great supplies.Attitudes all vary.my favorite one also takes online orders.Vividaquarium.com.Thats a shout out line.The uys in here are geat BUT being a female reefer I sometimes get "are you sure you know how to hook this up"DUH.I get my info from reef central, of course I know what im doing.Thanks reef central.
 
hahaha u tell um! my gf will go and buy a fish or sumthing she wants in her tank and they ask here YOU do KNOW THIS IS A SALTWATER FISH RIGHT? so her response to them is yea i have table salt at home ill just add it to my water.....duh of course she knows its saltwater...lol....women get NO respect in this hobby
 
i had decided that if i wanted to do it right i needed to go to the source, and became a weekend employee. made good friends and learned tons. perhaps that's why i am disappointed with everyone else. since i left there i worked two other weekend LFS jobs, and was the senior in reef and fo..lol, but now it seems they have all closed and all there is is on-line and chains. that's why i wanted other people's responses. glad i'm not alone.

also thanks to Reef Central

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12603622#post12603622 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
You expect some teenager making minimum wage to research and understand microbiology and captive ecosystems. COME ON!!!
I do it and I haven't even applied at my lfs yet. :)
 
I figure that if I arrive at the lfs and have a question, then I haven't done enough research on my own... shame on me.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12607092#post12607092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Potsy
I figure that if I arrive at the lfs and have a question, then I haven't done enough research on my own... shame on me.


i totally agree with this
 
You guys are all lucky, at least you can drive to another store. Here in the virgin islands , St thomas to be exact, there is only one store that carrys salt water. They own a petting zoo and decided to buy the pet shop from the previous owner who really knew how to take care of the animals.
Well needkles to say the store looks like a zoo. the 5 tanks that are there are half full because of evaporation, there are undersea tumbleweeds in the corners because of dead fish, most of the fish have ich, i can go on and on,
I am seriously thinking of opening a store myself, so if anyone has any info on were i can get supplys, fish and coral or any one willing to ship to the vi pm me and let me know.
I have even devised a vay to bring them home in my checked luggage, since tsa dose not allow liquids, when i go on buisness trios to miami area.

Happy reefing everyone
 
My roommate bought 2 mushroom rocks from a local store. While we were there we noticed that on both rocks there were a shroom or two that were missing the mouth. We asked the owner if that was normal and he said they were fine. those two mushrooms, along with all the others melted from the inside out. Never did get any kind of compensation.

same store sold her a lunar wrasse assuring her it was reef safe (you could argue that she shouldve looked it up beforehand, but they shouldnt say yes if they dont know).

This store is actually banned on RC
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12603622#post12603622 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by FB
You expect some teenager making minimum wage to research and understand microbiology and captive ecosystems. COME ON!!!
My bad info. was from the owner of the store. The thing that gets me is his tanks are beautiful.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12604399#post12604399 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ludnix
Well you probably shouldn't be putting hermits in your tank like he said. You can cycle the tank with a piece of raw shrimp quite easily.

I'm fully aware of the raw shrimp raw this and that etc thing to cycle the tank. After my cell biology 4004 and microbiology 2232 courses, though, I'm not necessarily convinced that this is the best way to cycle a tank. You can let me know if you're interested in my reasoning, otherwise I won't take the time.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12604673#post12604673 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RicksReefs
hmmm, considering it could take three months for that homemade rock to cure and not kill things, employee #2 wasn't to far off the mark...


you guys want cheap stuff and are suprised when they have to hire cheap help? then you go buy stuff online, making them hire even cheaper help.

I see complaints that they're not good enough
I see complaints that that the ones that are, are to arrogant.
so they're damned if they're not and damned if they are.

petco's aren't LFS's. that's like saying home depot is the local hardware store. :)

and yes, I work (manage) a LFS and hired two former petco employees because they cared to much. one even tried buying a gallon of copper from me to secretly treat petco's fish since they don't allow meds. I've never regretted hiring her. are most of them dumber that the sand they sell? yup. but you should expect crappy advice from a crappy store.

I need coffee...

I'm not entirely sure you understand the dynamics of curing DIY LR. If I had made that rock and dropped it directly in a tank of SW, the pH on day 1 would be close to 14...the pH on month 3 would also be close to 14. My point is that manmade LR releases a LOT of strong base, and this isn't going to just go away by waiting "for things to stabilize." There's no (reasonable) way that the manmade rock is going to cure in the same water that a person expects to sustain life in. My rock was cured and pH neutral months before I used it....

Also, you see complaints when they're not good enough and complaints when they're too arrogant. This is probably because people don't complain when things go well. My good LFS has been good to me, so you don't see me complaining. But at the same time, I haven't seen them rescue any elderly folks from burning houses, so I'm not creating posts to shower praise on them.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12603978#post12603978 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by widmer
The last time I went to an LFS here in the Minneapolis area, called Something Fishy, is when I decided I'm finnished visiting them:

I had just set up a new reef, filled the tank with SW and never-used-before manmade rock. Water had been circulating for about a week. I was going to stop in and buy a couple little hermit crabs and a peice of LR to introduce some life to the system. I asked employee #1 which hermits he would recommend most out of his stock that are reef safe. He showed me the hermits, but he also really wanted to sell me some fish and corals that day. So I asked him if he has a reef aquarium, to which he replied "Oh I used to have saltwater, but now I just have freshwater because the saltwater was just too much trouble and work for me."

I picked out a couple of little hermits, and had them test my water in their refractometer just to make sure that my salinity measuring was accurate, and found I had about a third more salt in the water than I needed, at which time employee #1 turns to #2 and is like "Oh that's fine, isn't it? Let's get this guy some fish and corals picked out."

Employee #2's heart was in the right place, but he didn't quite get it either. I told him I had water circulating in the aquarium for a week, to which he said "You should have that thing going at least a month before you put any creatures in it." I then told him again and explicitly: "All I have in this aquarium is salt water and LR that I made out of cement and crushed coral. Not a single organic being has been in there. I'm just trying to get the bacteria going with a couple hermits now." Somehow, he just felt like I was an idiot and told me "Look, I've got a new reef I'm setting up and I've got everything stabilizing for 3 months before I start adding creatures. You need to let your tank stabilize before you put anything in there."

So between employee #1 trying to set me up for failure and employee #2 thinking I'm an idiot while he clearly is doing some of these things without really understanding why, it wasn't a great experience for me. That's OK, the LFS that's a block down the road has been great in the meantime...

no offence, but the second store employee by the sounds of it knows what they are talking about, you need to do more reading on how to set up a salt water aquarium, stabalizing a tank with live rock at minimum 1 lb per gallon of good quality and porous rock eg totoka, bali, not man made rock which will probably give you ph problem, for minimum 6 weeks before adding ANY livestock fish coral or cuc.

so you should sit back a re evalute the situation with the second store employee after you yourself have understood what you re doing and thank him for helping you.

the lfs i have here which is big als sucks....unfortunately i have to drive minimum 1 hour to go to a good lfs...
 
No.

To much information out there to get caught...Everything is on a timer, some more than others...

"Can I help you?"

;)
 
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Retail is hell. The costs and waste in the ornamental fish business is staggering. Everyone's opinion is right. Finding solid trustworthy performers to employ is time consuming and difficult. Dealing with the general public is a nightmare. Personality clashes are common place.

Life. It is a beautiful day in paradise.
 
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