Does my PT have HLLD? *pics*

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C4SxM5

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Had him for 6 months or so and never had any issues. Just added a Carribean blue tang a few weeks ago and now the PT has these white things on its body. Is it HLLD = Head and Lateral line disease or something else? If it is HLLD, how can I cure it? Fish is eating normally and nothing abnormal other than the white markings you see.

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At first glance I would have said yes this is HLLE however, after looking at the profile shot of the PT it appears as these are raised spots. Whatever it is it is clearly establishing along the lateral line system of the fish.

My conclusion is that this is a parasite C. Irritans attacking the more vulnerable area of the PT along the lateral line system. It actually may have initially started as HLLE and now that certain areas have been erroded and less protected the parasite has found a "chink" in the armor.

I would reccomend removal of all the fish followed by the treatment of your choice.

I would conduct a formalin bath on any symptomatic fish and conduct a hyposalinity treatment for 6 weeks on all fish.

Good Luck,
Jacob
 
so HLLE is not raised at all? You are correct, the white spots are raised so there is no way it is HLLE right?
 
This is not Ich. It looks like both HLLE & Lymphocystis.

Both of which will heal with time. Lymphocystis is a virus, which no medication will help. Feeding quality foods, along with pristine water will help it go away. It usually takes about 1 months time to clear up.

Fortunately, the cure for HLLE is much the same as Lymphocystis. Pristine water and quality foods. Also be sure there is no stray electrical current leaking from any of the powerheads, pumps or heaters. A volt-meter will be required to test.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13491815#post13491815 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AuroraDrvr
This is not Ich. It looks like both HLLE & Lymphocystis.

Both of which will heal with time. Lymphocystis is a virus, which no medication will help. Feeding quality foods, along with pristine water will help it go away. It usually takes about 1 months time to clear up.

Fortunately, the cure for HLLE is much the same as Lymphocystis. Pristine water and quality foods. Also be sure there is no stray electrical current leaking from any of the powerheads, pumps or heaters. A volt-meter will be required to test.
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+1.
 
The two zebrsoma sp in the same tank probably creates stress in the tangs, which gives these type conditions a better chance to take hold.
 
well i tried catching him last night and had him in the net and all but he jumped last minute.

so should i pull him out of the tank and QT him or is a water change and a lot vitamin C good?

I just really want to avoid QT'ing all of my fishes (have no clue how really) but the thought of parasites killing all of my fishes scares the sh&* out of me.

thanks for all the help!
 
i would take out one of those zebrasomas out since its probably the reason that the purple tang developed the parasite. with a stress free inviroment and some good feeding and pristine water. the fish will take care of it. you should be fine with this.
 
Good job AuroraDrvr I think you nailed it as lymphocystis.

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...um=1&hl=en&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-17,GGLD:en&sa=N


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13491815#post13491815 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by AuroraDrvr
This is not Ich. It looks like both HLLE & Lymphocystis.

Both of which will heal with time. Lymphocystis is a virus, which no medication will help. Feeding quality foods, along with pristine water will help it go away. It usually takes about 1 months time to clear up.

Fortunately, the cure for HLLE is much the same as Lymphocystis. Pristine water and quality foods. Also be sure there is no stray electrical current leaking from any of the powerheads, pumps or heaters. A volt-meter will be required to test.
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i font think it is lympho b/c lympho usually grows on fins not directly on the fishes body i say it lateral line and the spots are the fishes flesh wich lateral line eats at give it a feww more days and see if the spots begin to decay and turn into craters in the fishes skin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13493496#post13493496 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by C4SxM5
well i tried catching him last night and had him in the net and all but he jumped last minute.

so should i pull him out of the tank and QT him or is a water change and a lot vitamin C good?

I just really want to avoid QT'ing all of my fishes (have no clue how really) but the thought of parasites killing all of my fishes scares the sh&* out of me.

thanks for all the help!
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Lympho. is not a parasite. Its a virus (think common-cold), as long as the other fish are healthy, it is unlikely they will contract it.

I personally would leave it in there, as your DT's water quality will surely be much better than that of a QT's. And, if the Purple already has Lympho, your tank already has it. So taking the fish out now will do no good. Though, if the other fish are healthy, they will not contract it.

It also looks like you have an Atlantic Blue Tang in there as well? That could be the source of fustration for the Purple tang, aswell.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13494997#post13494997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dones20
i font think it is lympho b/c lympho usually grows on fins not directly on the fishes body i say it lateral line and the spots are the fishes flesh wich lateral line eats at give it a feww more days and see if the spots begin to decay and turn into craters in the fishes skin
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Lympho nodules can grow anywhere on a fish's body. It is prone to develop in open wounds/sores and areas that the slimecoat is thin.

Here's a great example.

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im sorry but i disagree i have never heard or seen of lympho on a fishes body other than fins mind you i worked at a major distributor and have seen this disease a wholelot of times and never once seen on the fishes body do you have a link or proof of this imintreseted to know thanks
 
Wow. I really can't fathom how you think Lymphocystis is restricted to the outer edges of fins?

Proof? What about the picture I posted just above, that shows another Purple Tang with lymphocystis on its side? Which 'just happens' to look identical to the ailment that C4SxM5's tang has? Have you looked through the wetwebmedia link Jacob posted?
 
To me neither one of these fish including the one you posted even look like lympho lympho is usually in lumps or in cotton ball shapes the pic you posted looks more like a fungal disease
 
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