Does my yellow tang have ich?

[Kayvon77]

I just bought this fella yesterday and he was pretty active yesterday, but now he looks like he has ich. I don't see white dots on his body, but it does look like there are some peppered textures under his skin. Can't really tell by looking at it straight on, but viewed from an angle you could see the dots under the skin. So excuse my naivety, does this fellow have ich? I also saw him go up to my fire shrimp and he started picking at him as if he's picking something off of his skin. Also , he goes up to my six line wrass and try's to brush next to him as if to tell him, come on and clean me.

By the way, my tank params are good. Nitrate, ammonia are 0. Nitrate is 10ppm, salinity 1.022, ph 8.1

Here are some pics of him if you can tell

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[jbvdhp]

Yup. That's ich. You'll have to remove all fish if you want to treat it properly. Read up on tank transfer method to rid fish of ich and leaving the tank fallow for 76 days.


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[krullshards]

It seems like he's really thin too. Is he eating ok?

 

[Kayvon77]

I'm trying to set up a QT tank now. Hope he can survive it.

Krullshards, no he is not eating, although I could have swore he was at the fish store. Gggrrr.. That serves me well not to QT the new fish.

I'm thing of doing hypo method as I don't have two separate tanks for the Transfer Method. Any preferences out there as to what kind of treatment works best?


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[jbvdhp]

Easiest treatment is tank transfer hands down. Hypo is tough.

Just buy two buckets or two plastic tubs from Walmart or target (Sterilite tubs- $6 from Walmart). I use them on small and large fish. They're cheap.


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[Turbosreef]

If you caught it in the "pepper" stage you could be OK. You got it before it spread make sure you change the water in the DT and you should be OK. Normally your other healthy fish can fight it off.

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[snorvich]

If you caught it in the "pepper" stage you could be OK. You got it before it spread make sure you change the water in the DT and you should be OK. Normally your other healthy fish can fight it off.

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Sorry, neither statement is correct.

 

[Turbosreef]

Sorry been doing this a long time, that's been my experience. Feel free to share yours.

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[ThRoewer]

Easiest treatment is tank transfer hands down. Hypo is tough.

Just buy two buckets or two plastic tubs from Walmart or target (Sterilite tubs- $6 from Walmart). I use them on small and large fish. They're cheap.


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I see it just the other way around: hypo is easier than TTM and often the better choice when you actually have to treat a larger group of fish against ich.
TTM is the best PREVENTIVE measure with new fish.

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[SALTYwaterDOG]

If you caught it in the "pepper" stage you could be OK. You got it before it spread make sure you change the water in the DT and you should be OK. Normally your other healthy fish can fight it off.

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What is the pepper stage? Is that the Trophont stage?

 

[Kayvon77]

When I saw him this morning he was laying on the sand and breathing heavily. I quickly setup the a hospital tank and had to scrap my hypo plan and go for the medication treatment. I put it new water in my hospital tank and tried to match the params of my disp tank. I then added the Ich X medication . I netted the poor guy out and put him in the hospital tank. He still stayed on the bottom of the tank breathing heavily. Tonight when I got in, I saw him still laying on the bottom but dead.[emoji30] that sucks! I feel so guilty for not moving quick enough. How likely would have been for me to save the fish if he was already at the laying in the ground breathing heavy stage?


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[ThRoewer]

What is the pepper stage? Is that the Trophont stage?

It's when the fish shows the typical white dots.
Assuming that the infection occurred all at once it could be possible to take the fish out before the parasites leave him. Unfortunately the longer a system is infected the less defined are the infection waves (which is what you usually find in store systems).
So, If the fish stayed for even one night you have to assume that some of the bad boys have jumped ship during the night.

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[ThRoewer]

When I saw him this morning he was laying on the sand and breathing heavily. I quickly setup the a hospital tank and had to scrap my hypo plan and go for the medication treatment. I put it new water in my hospital tank and tried to match the params of my disp tank. I then added the Ich X medication . I netted the poor guy out and put him in the hospital tank. He still stayed on the bottom of the tank breathing heavily. Tonight when I got in, I saw him still laying on the bottom but dead.[emoji30] that sucks! I feel so guilty for not moving quick enough. How likely would have been for me to save the fish if he was already at the laying in the ground breathing heavy stage?


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That fish was already on deads doorstep when you got him. He likely had already been hit with a lethal wave of parasites. The real damage isn't during the feeding stage, but when the parasites leave the fish.
He would have needed a fish ICU with steroid shots, lowered salinity, oxygen and antibiotics to have a chance for survival.

 

[SALTYwaterDOG]

Sorry to here that.

 

[Turbosreef]

Sorry man that really sucks. Tell your LFS you got hosed. They should cut you a break in pretty sure they get comped for fish that come in mostly dead. In the future make the LFS quarantine the one you want let it sit they're for a few weeks at least you know if it lives it's mostly healthy then you only have to worry about the crappy water in their tanks.

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[Turbosreef]

That fish was already on deads doorstep when you got him. He likely had already been hit with a lethal wave of parasites. The real damage isn't during the feeding stage, but when the parasites leave the fish.
He would have needed a fish ICU with steroid shots, lowered salinity, oxygen and antibiotics to have a chance for survival.

That's what I was trying to say before if you catch the ich before it drops off you have a much better chance of not needing to do ttm or having to go hypo in the display tank.

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[snorvich]

That's what I was trying to say before if you catch the ich before it drops off you have a much better chance of not needing to do ttm or having to go hypo in the display tank.

That implies synchronicity, as ThRoewer stated, which is highly unlikely coming from any LFS.

ThRoewer states:

Assuming that the infection occurred all at once it could be possible to take the fish out before the parasites leave him. Unfortunately the longer a system is infected the less defined are the infection waves (which is what you usually find in store systems). So, If the fish stayed for even one night you have to assume that some of the bad boys have jumped ship during the night.

 

[Kayvon77]

Thanks all for all your invaluable feedback. I got another Yellow Tang and quarantined it with the rest of my fish. Sure enough the tang came with ich. I have done hypo for the last four weeks and it seems all tank mates are doing swimmingly (pun intended [emoji6]). I just have my DT to worry about. It has been fawless for the last four weeks. Should I wait more before adding my fish back in? Also, I have 6 fish that have been in the quarantine tank. Should I reintroduce them one by one to the DT so not to overload the biological filtration all at once, or is it cool to just do all together?

Thx again for your advice. So glad I have this resource to refer to whenever a question pops up. You guys are amazing.

Kayvon


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[Kayvon77]

Thanks all for all your invaluable feedback. I got another Yellow Tang and quarantined it with the rest of my fish. Sure enough the tang came with ich. I have done hypo for the last four weeks and it seems all tank mates are doing swimmingly (pun intended [emoji6]). I just have my DT to worry about. It has been fawless for the last four weeks. Should I wait more before adding my fish back in? Also, I have 6 fish that have been in the quarantine tank. Should I reintroduce them one by one to the DT so not to overload the biological filtration all at once, or is it cool to just do all together?

Thx again for your advice. So glad I have this resource to refer to whenever a question pops up. You guys are amazing.

Kayvon


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Anyone?


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[Deinonych]

Are there any fish in the DT currently? If so, all need to be removed for 72 days (minimum) to ensure the parasite has died off. Once the DT is ready to receive fish again, best to introduce them gradually (1-2 fish every couple of weeks) to make sure the biofilter catches up.