Does this picture look like Ich?

[gone fishin]

I tried to stay out, so here goes.

IMO your correct in your assertion that a heavily stocked tank that has ich is incredibly difficult to treat.

Now, Ich is not in every body of water and for this discussion lets just keep it to our tanks. The only way for ich to get into the tank is to be introduced to the tank. This is most commonly done by fish.

If one was to assume a new fish has ich upon purchase. Then placed the fish into a treatment protocol such as TTM, copper or hyposalinty then upon completion of the protocol it reasonable to assume there is no ich. After the complete QT protocol is completed then the fish is placed in the DT, no ich in the DT.

If this procedure is followed for each fish then the chances of getting ich into a DT is slim. As a result the likelihood of having to treat a fully stocked tank is also slim.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[jminick2]

At least we are on the same page.

3 years experience

SMH, apparently I pushed some buttons. Don't be mad I hope you are ok. I'll end this here.

 

[mr.feebles]

And to be fare mr.feebles, there is plenty of research to promote the use of a multivitamin in the human body. The medical and insurance industry has monopolized the argument against that tho. Keep you coming back for those oxys.

But I won't open that can of worms, the Gerson family cracked that one wide open in the 30's, and I personally have had deadly ailments cured holistically to prove their point.

But I DO respect your opinion, and will use it accordingly in the future on my posts.

i'll beg to differ w/ your 1st sentence. there is lots of evidence that we need vitamins.

that says nothing about whether or not taking a multivitamin is beneficial, or that it accomplishes anything. most of the vitamin 'b' in a pill you swallow, goes right out your body, e.g..

if you don't mind my asking, what specific vitamin deficiency did you have?

and, having an open mind, i'd really appreciate it if you could point me to a scientific study of multivitamin effects long term on humans that shows a verifiable benefit. i've been looking for one for yrs., to no avail. if the evidence is there, i'll certainly change my stance.

 

[brianr24]

I believe that with quarantine and TTM u can have an ich free DT. But can't ich be introduced from the shell of a snail or. Crab or even a frag plug?

 

[gone fishin]

Nuts, I always forget something.

If someone was to decide to forego any sort of QT protocol prior to stocking their DT and ended up with ich then things are more complicated. The choices then are to remove the fish, treat and leave the tank fishless for 72 days. The other option is to try and manage the ich. This is accomplished by good water chemistry and nutrition to keep the fish as healthy as possible.

Just my 2 cents

 

[gone fishin]

I believe that with quarantine and TTM u can have an ich free DT. But can't ich be introduced from the shell of a snail or. Crab or even a frag plug?

It is a possibility and has happened to some folks. Some folks will QT anything wet to prevent this. Others weigh the risk and deem it a slim chance. This does not mean that one should not at least dip their corals. There are some real nasties that can hitch a ride in on them.

 

[CStrickland]

But since you asked,,
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/m/#publication?id=FA164

anyone interested in how crypto (ich) actually lives and works, should read this:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa164

This forum is pretty funny sometimes

 

[gone fishin]

This forum is funny sometimes

It sure is C

 

[sde1500]

Lol that it is. Though I think it serves mr.feebles point better. Since it does advocate for TTM

 

[mr.feebles]

some people are very easily amused, evidently...

 

[CStrickland]

some people are very easily amused, evidently...