Dr. Bridge's ALK auto test and correction

So correct me if Im wrong here, but from the pics and what you have said this is basically just an automated titration test.

It looks like it works like any current alk test but it uses dosing pumps to automate it, and Im guessing it uses a color sensor to evaluate/translate the results.

Is that about right?

the color changing we see in our kits signals a pH change, so he is probably just doing a titration with a pH probe. For something like Alk that is so easy to test and only needs to be adjusted gradually over time, I don't see how maintaining a machine like this would be worth it. It seems like some people love the idea of a temp probe so much (which is essential because heat needs to be controlled quite regularly) and then they got carried away with pH meters, which hardly ever do anyone any good. And now there is a push to make probes for everything imaginable. In some cases I can see how it is worth it if you have money to burn and the probe is easy to operate, but a titration machine just doesn't seem like it's worth the time.
 
Does it take into account changes in calcium and magnesium saturation? I think the benefit here is real for a lot of reefer's who maybe don't understand the chemistry super well but could darn sure maintain a machine in operating condition. I will stay interested for now, looking forward to more testing results.
 
the color changing we see in our kits signals a pH change, so he is probably just doing a titration with a pH probe. For something like Alk that is so easy to test and only needs to be adjusted gradually over time, I don't see how maintaining a machine like this would be worth it. It seems like some people love the idea of a temp probe so much (which is essential because heat needs to be controlled quite regularly) and then they got carried away with pH meters, which hardly ever do anyone any good. And now there is a push to make probes for everything imaginable. In some cases I can see how it is worth it if you have money to burn and the probe is easy to operate, but a titration machine just doesn't seem like it's worth the time.

the issue with Alk is that if for whatever reason your SPS stops growing, your Alk value will increase severalfold faster than the cal/mg values, while being one of the most sensitive parameters for SPS health and longevity.

When away for some days (I like to test alk every second day) anything that can slow or accelerate SPS growth (sudden drop or raise in phosphate, a bulb blowing and a drop in light) will be detected by this machine and either automatically corrected or possibly through a development to the arduino be able to notify the owner via email/text (I don't think it's too difficult to connect an arduino wirelessly to a computer, looking at the log of KH tests it seems to have this already)

This will be invaluable for SPS reefs IMO

I'd guess it uses 2 pumps, one for tank water of a constant volume (is this reading WA?) and 0.1N HCL solution (probably the DC value?) then titrate in a chamber with a PH probe, using a third pump to 'stir' the solution, till the endpoint is reached, with this data it'll be compared to the previous reading and probably a change/hour is calculated and compared to the total dosage of alkalinity supplement and an increase/decrease in daily dose could be calculated and implemented as a percentage of total daily volume. If using a balanced additive system this should keep calcium in check too.
I suppose it is possible to subsequently assess the validity of the test by measuring the volume of the titrated water, it should be the sum of volume WA and DC, and would just confirm the calibration of the dosing pump and equipment.

How much of this system can be bought readily? Will it be produced as a single unit or as a DIY pack, and most importantly do you have a timeline for when? What is the maintenance required n the machine itself in it's current iteration? sorry for the questions I've not been so excited for a product for a while!
 
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the issue with Alk is that if for whatever reason your SPS stops growing, your Alk value will increase severalfold faster than the cal/mg values, while being one of the most sensitive parameters for SPS health and longevity.

When away for some days (I like to test alk every second day) anything that can slow or accelerate SPS growth (sudden drop or raise in phosphate, a bulb blowing and a drop in light) will be detected by this machine and either automatically corrected or possibly through a development to the arduino be able to notify the owner via email/text (I don't think it's too difficult to connect an arduino wirelessly to a computer, looking at the log of KH tests it seems to have this already)

This will be invaluable for SPS reefs IMO

I'd guess it uses 2 pumps, one for tank water of a constant volume (is this reading WA?) and 0.1N HCL solution (probably the DC value?) then titrate in a chamber with a PH probe, using a third pump to 'stir' the solution, till the endpoint is reached, with this data it'll be compared to the previous reading and probably a change/hour is calculated and compared to the total dosage of alkalinity supplement and an increase/decrease in daily dose could be calculated and implemented as a percentage of total daily volume. If using a balanced additive system this should keep calcium in check too.
I suppose it is possible to subsequently assess the validity of the test by measuring the volume of the titrated water, it should be the sum of volume WA and DC, and would just confirm the calibration of the dosing pump and equipment.

How much of this system can be bought readily? Will it be produced as a single unit or as a DIY pack, and most importantly do you have a timeline for when? What is the maintenance required n the machine itself in it's current iteration? sorry for the questions I've not been so excited for a product for a while!

What he said
 
Hi guys, sorry for late reply.

I found some lately discussion here similar to Dr. Bridge's approach, but allow me check.

BTW, Dr. Bridge is working on how to cost down and beta testing. So far so good.
 
I saw a post on another forum that hinted that this may be commercialized Q3 of 2016. Any further word on this, as I was just about to start working with some spare stepper driven peristaltic pumps on something like this... If it will be available soon I can put my time and effort into some of my other projects
 
Where did you hear that?

After 15 months of no response from the OP I usually assume the project died just like every other alk monitor that has popped up on here.
 
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