Dropping alk with Calcium precipitation?

Icefire

Seasoned reefer
Let say I add enought calcium in my shut down sump to drop my alk from 15 to 5-7 dkh with Seachem adv. Calcium than put it back online to drop my tank at around 10 dkh.

Any problem with that?
 
No that should not be problem. Just remember when the Alk drops it is taking Ca++ with it, which I think you know, which is going to be the solid CaCO3 and lower the Ca++. That water may be cloudy or form a chalk on the bottom if done to much. That drop, from 15 - 5 -7 dKH, will equal a drop in Ca++ by ~70 ppm. Some of it may be Mg++ also
 
So by dosing enought Advance Calcium to trigger a precipitation, it should lower 20ppm Ca / 2.8dkh?

Advance Calcium have 100:5:0.1 ratio of CA:MG:Sr so I guess I won't loose much Mg.

I just hope that my Ca won't be sky high like 700ppm with 7dkh alk...
 
It should but it does not mean it will. There are many factors that effect it, i.e., Temp, pH, Alk, Ca++, Mg ++ etc. Normally, if Ca++ leaves solution abioticly, which is what you are trying to do, a drop in 2.8 dKH will take with it 20 ppm Ca++ to make CaCO3 Calcite solid.

A old method for lowering the Alk is to add Ca++ and an old method for lowering the Ca++ its to add Alk. By far the more common is to lower the Ca++ by increasing the Alk. Randy talks about this in his article on Ca++ and Alk balance. Lowering the Alk is not all that safe as the other. I should have mentioned these in the first post.

Most of us don't like doing that and just let the Alk fall on its own. That is what I would do.
 
Calcium is 420
Alk is 14-15 dkh

I'm gonna try a 300ppm dose in my ~25G of water sump to try to pull the alk down to 5-7 dkh then I'll adjust my Ca back to 450-500.
 
Your pH is to low. Spiking the pH will work. Again me I would just leave the tank alone or do a large water change. There is another method but I consider it dangerous, that is adding HCl, Muriatic Acid to the water. You would have to run some small sample tests, so you now where you are at and don't screw up when adding to the tank/sump.
 
Adding 0.2 ml soda ash in a baffle create a small snow storm for like 15-20 sec.

I don't have HCL here, but I might done something good.

I have some detritus/sand in between the baffles, I used a turkey baster and blew them. Got a nice snow storm now.
 
Total failure

Alk 14
Ca 820
Ph 8.0

And some have problem getting 10alk with 450 Ca :lol:

It must be record, I wish I had an mg test lol.
 
Gee I did some work, tring to precipate, waterchange, adding Phosguard, remove carbon, remove 75% cyano, dosed Erythromicin (800mg), skimmer isn't foaming at all(should be overfflowing), tested 20 times+,

The 820Ca was funny, a record! My Mg must be High.

All look good, except the water isn't 100% clear now but fish/corals look good.

Hope the cyano will be gone!
 
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Your pH is to low. Spiking the pH will work. Again me I would just leave the tank alone or do a large water change. There is another method but I consider it dangerous, that is adding HCl, Muriatic Acid to the water. You would have to run some small sample tests, so you now where you are at and don't screw up when adding to the tank/sump.

How the HCL work? would PH Down work? (sulfuric acid)
Would CO2 work better?

There must be a reef safe way to drop kh
 
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There must be a reef safe way to drop kh

Yes there is :D 3 large water changes.

You can NOT lower dKH with CO2 it has NO effect on it. It only cause a shift in the pH. Sulfuric acid is a no-no.

Alkalinity = Acid Neutralizing Capacity and HCl is an acid and the best acid for this in water. It also lowers the pH. Your Alk kit works off of titration which is adding an acid like HCl until it reaches an end-point of about pH 4. The amount added is = to Alk.

Something to read

What is Alkalinity
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2002/2/chemistry
 
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