nj_evoIXgsr
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beautiful tank!
DSPS tank from Thailand (1000 gallon+)
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Corry
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Jeesh, $1,800, We have them here off our coast (South Africa) and they're quite common.
Just read recently another fish endemic of South Africa, a Tiger Angel (Apolemichthys kingii), has commanded prices of $35k. They're also relatively common, but generally found 20m and deeper. As it is endemic off our coast I plan to catch one this summer.
A mate and I caught one three years back during our provincial spearfishing trials but some chop stole it. Only now I know why.
Dear Ching,
I am following your threat quiete a while and I have to say I love your system. It is fantastik and I can't wait for the pics in 2 years, this is going to be the most beautifull tank ever.
One thing to the Gamatum, this fish is expensiv everywhere here in Germany you pay 800 - 1000 Euros which I guess is 1500USD today. It is my favourite fish and I really love to have it but thats to much and maybe my Japonicus will kill him straight away :hammer:.
Anyway great tank
CU
I am following your threat quiete a while and I have to say I love your system. It is fantastik and I can't wait for the pics in 2 years, this is going to be the most beautifull tank ever.
One thing to the Gamatum, this fish is expensiv everywhere here in Germany you pay 800 - 1000 Euros which I guess is 1500USD today. It is my favourite fish and I really love to have it but thats to much and maybe my Japonicus will kill him straight away :hammer:.
Anyway great tank
CU
myerst2
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nineball
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With such an advanced system and attention to detail, aren't you concerned of an outbreak of of ich or velvet? It would be horrible if that monster display were to be infected with such an outbreak, b/c obviously it would be impossible to treat. Just my two cents.
Are you concerned that temp is a bit high for the interruptus? There is a great article on keeping a lower temperature and the success with corals and fish and I have to dig it up. T
I think if Chingchai can survive an elephant in his fish room he can survive a bit of ich without a problem. It boggles my mind that observations like this are made when the size and scope of this project have to suggest that some experience and knowledge must be in supply.
Peter
I am aware that he has experience. Why does this boggle your mind. Have 1,000 gal full blown reef infected with ich would quite a problem. Being that this display is of this "size and scope", I would think QT'ing fish would be done, no questions asked. All the gadgets and gizmos will not prevent a disease or parasite outbreak. Just trying to add some suggestions.
Didn't know they were from a previous tank. Even if they were I would probably Qt them. Better safe then sorry. Something as simple as Qting the fish for a couple of weeks will guarantee no parasite issues down the road. What would one do if a 1,000 gallon full blown reef comes down with ich or velvet? T
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Originally Posted by myerst2
With such an advanced system and attention to detail, aren't you concerned of an outbreak of of ich or velvet? It would be horrible if that monster display were to be infected with such an outbreak, b/c obviously it would be impossible to treat. Just my two cents.
Are you concerned that temp is a bit high for the interruptus? There is a great article on keeping a lower temperature and the success with corals and fish and I have to dig it up. T
I think if Chingchai can survive an elephant in his fish room he can survive a bit of ich without a problem. It boggles my mind that observations like this are made when the size and scope of this project have to suggest that some experience and knowledge must be in supply.
Peter
I am aware that he has experience. Why does this boggle your mind. Have 1,000 gal full blown reef infected with ich would quite a problem. Being that this display is of this "size and scope", I would think QT'ing fish would be done, no questions asked. All the gadgets and gizmos will not prevent a disease or parasite outbreak. Just trying to add some suggestions.
Didn't know they were from a previous tank. Even if they were I would probably Qt them. Better safe then sorry. Something as simple as Qting the fish for a couple of weeks will guarantee no parasite issues down the road. What would one do if a 1,000 gallon full blown reef comes down with ich or velvet? T
Moser
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Ich is overrated!.
In a mature system with massive volume and low stocking, with no stress on the fish, whitespot will not kill the fish.
Whitespot kills only in immature systems with poor water quality and overstocking.... Catching, then qt'ing using an immature filter and less effective filtration/skimmer is far more likely to kill the fish!.
QT'ing in the average home system will not prevent contamination..... it is exceedingly difficult to be certain that the ich parasite has not been transferred somehow or other.
I would be very surprised if any of the systems mentioned in this thread have QT systems!!..... in fact I don't recall a TOTM thread ever mentioning a QT system...can you?.
I'd even go as far as saying that if you had a fish with ich and put it in one of the systems in this thread, the ich would disappear in a day or two, as the boost to the immune system from being in such pure water with no stress would allow the fish to fight it off..... I have seen it happen, several times.
I'd be interested to hear a contrary view.
Mo
chingchai
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Thanks.
chingchai
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chingchai
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chingchai
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QT or not QT
Using copper or any kind of drug to cure ich or Not using
These two subjects are neverending debate.
But for me, I never QT or use any kind of drug.
I don't want to stress them.
Some of my fishes got ich from time to time and they always can recover by themselves.
IMHO. Pristine water is the key.
Using copper or any kind of drug to cure ich or Not using
These two subjects are neverending debate.
But for me, I never QT or use any kind of drug.
I don't want to stress them.
Some of my fishes got ich from time to time and they always can recover by themselves.
IMHO. Pristine water is the key.
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Robertstock
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you rock, thanks for showing what can be done with water and brains!!
DThompson
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Not only is water quality key, what a few are forgetting is the size of the tank. The sheer volume of water makes problems much easier to deal with.
HomeSlizzice
Angelfish/Wrasse Nut!
WOW, your tank is insane!!! I've been following this build for a while, and well done I'm jealous. Your tank is amazing!!!
Corry
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But for me, I never QT or use any kind of drug.
I don't want to stress them.
Some of my fishes got ich from time to time and they always can recover by themselves.
IMHO. Pristine water is the key.[/QUOTE]
Never, ever underestimate the value of a population of Cleaner Shrimps (Lysmata sp) and/or a Cleaner wrasse. They, coupled with a mature system, good water, high flow etc will keep fish healthy.
I don't want to stress them.
Some of my fishes got ich from time to time and they always can recover by themselves.
IMHO. Pristine water is the key.[/QUOTE]
Never, ever underestimate the value of a population of Cleaner Shrimps (Lysmata sp) and/or a Cleaner wrasse. They, coupled with a mature system, good water, high flow etc will keep fish healthy.
Vili_Shark
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I dont get it.
you'd QT your own fish if you just move them tank??
QT for what?
Why would you want to QT such a jumbo Achilles who's with Ching for years?
You can never give this fish a good chance in an average QT as he have now.
jmaneyapanda
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Ching, If you choose not to QT new fish, I wish you luck, and will cross my fingers that you dont have a problem. However, IMO, and the opinion of nearly EVERY public aquarium in the world (including those with volume FAR greater than this and water quality "pristine" as stated), QT is a mandatory and critical step. It should NEVER be labelled as "unneeded" or "snake oil". As I mentioned, if you chose to not do it, that is your prerogative, and you certainly do have a beautiful tank with many beautiful fish and corals now. I just hope it does come back to sting you, as it has SO many others who didnt QT.
FWIW, Copper does cure ick, that is not debated. However, copper is a caustic substance, and can cause other problems in non adjusted fish. IMO, if the fish is strong and healthy enough to fight off ick easily, it is strong and healthy enough to spend a few weeks in Quarantine. And if it isnt, then it is a vector for disease. A disease like protozoan amyloodinium will wipe out an entire collection of fish like this in days.
Good luck nonetheless, and beautiful tank.
FWIW, Copper does cure ick, that is not debated. However, copper is a caustic substance, and can cause other problems in non adjusted fish. IMO, if the fish is strong and healthy enough to fight off ick easily, it is strong and healthy enough to spend a few weeks in Quarantine. And if it isnt, then it is a vector for disease. A disease like protozoan amyloodinium will wipe out an entire collection of fish like this in days.
Good luck nonetheless, and beautiful tank.
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jmaneyapanda
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As far as I am aware, it is illegal in South Africa to collect fish for purposes of exporting them to the pet trade.
