Dual Quarantine?

[Meercat_Maric]

Long story short, I just purchased 2 dwarf angels (a Flame Angel and a Flame Back). Both are the same size and in fact came from the same aquarium at the LFS.

Before I dump them into the same quarantine tank I though to reach out to someone more knowledgeable to confirm this can be done. The quarantine tank I have setup is a 24 gallon tall with powerheads and filtration running full steam.

My concern is they might squabble after a while considering they are the only fish in the tank and limited decoration to separate territories.

Any opinions on this?

Thanks again!:spin1:

PS - the colors on these fish are AMAZING.. just saying :rollface:

 

[cloak]

I think you might of have bit off more than you can chew...

It can be done, just don't work so hard next time...

 

[Meercat_Maric]

I think you might of have bit off more than you can chew...

It can be done, just don't work so hard next time...

Thanks for the feedback - any suggestions on how I can increase my chances of them surviving quarantine?

 

[cloak]

Time & patiece?

 

[wooden_reefer]

Put in alot of hiding places but do not use any rock as the medium of filtration.

The coffee mugs in my office all disappeared for this reason, or you can use clay pots.

Hope you have cycled the medium for QT (which should not be rock of any kind but polyester or crushed coral ect).

 

[Fishmommy]

Could you use a tank divider? Egg crate maybe?


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[OkR33Fer]

When you qt multiple fish at once you risk cross contaminating. You may be introducing healthy fish into qt with a sick fish thus exposing the others to what ever ailment. It's best to be patient and qt individuals when possible.

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[wooden_reefer]

QTing as many fish as possible is what I do.

Newbies don't do it. A tank with many fish coming down with ich or bacterial infection is a sorry sight.

There can also be misplaced patience. Ammonia is never the issue; after a cycle the nitrification bacteria will handle whatever bioload. How can natural bioload ever produce close to the amount in artificial ammonia pulses?

QTing and stocking all the fish at once has the advantage of reducing compatability issues.

 

[Meercat_Maric]

Put in alot of hiding places but do not use any rock as the medium of filtration.

The coffee mugs in my office all disappeared for this reason, or you can use clay pots.

Hope you have cycled the medium for QT (which should not be rock of any kind but polyester or crushed coral ect).

The Q-tank has been up for about 2 months now so no worries on it already being established.

Good point regarding hiding spaces, I will add some PVC elbows to give them some retreat.

I may implement an eggcrate divider if I notice squabbling.

Thanks!

 

[wooden_reefer]

When you qt multiple fish at once you risk cross contaminating. You may be introducing healthy fish into qt with a sick fish thus exposing the others to what ever ailment. It's best to be patient and qt individuals when possible.

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Yes, this is a risk, but the reward is also very great. Incompatibility can be a very critical issue. When all are newcomers, often they all settle down nicely.
The amount of work is vastly reduced.

With UV set up correctly, incidents of bacterial infection have been vastly reduced and I have not had a single case of multiply fish infection. It can happen; I understand the risk, but I take it.

Newbies don't do it!

 

[wooden_reefer]

The Q-tank has been up for about 2 months now so no worries on it already being established.
Thanks!

Tell me how it has been "established"?

 

[cloak]

QTing as many fish as possible is what I do.

Newbies don't do it. A tank with many fish coming down with ich or bacterial infection is a sorry sight.

There can also be misplaced patience. Ammonia is never the issue; after a cycle the nitrification bacteria will handle whatever bioload. How can natural bioload ever produce close to the amount in artificial ammonia pulses?

QTing and stocking all the fish at once has the advantage of reducing compatability issues.

Laymen's terms man... Geeze...

I don't doubt your intelligence, but you need to speak "real" English for those that don't know.

 

[Meercat_Maric]

When you qt multiple fish at once you risk cross contaminating. You may be introducing healthy fish into qt with a sick fish thus exposing the others to what ever ailment. It's best to be patient and qt individuals when possible.

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QTing as many fish as possible is what I do.

Indeed, and I have done this method before with good results. I am trying it this way because both fish were housed in the same tank in the LFS before I purchased so I figured if one was ailing then the other would have already been exposed anyway.



Newbies don't do it. A tank with many fish coming down with ich or bacterial infection is a sorry sight.

There can also be misplaced patience. Ammonia is never the issue; after a cycle the nitrification bacteria will handle whatever bioload. How can natural bioload ever produce close to the amount in artificial ammonia pulses?

QTing and stocking all the fish at once has the advantage of reducing compatability issues.

Thanks for the feedback - I am quarantining just wanted to know if the method of quarantine was feasible considering the fish species.

After many year sin this hobby, I never introduce with a minimal quarantine time.:uhoh3:

 

[cloak]

Good luck, one way or the other...

 

[wooden_reefer]

Laymen's terms man... Geeze...

I don't doubt your intelligence, but you need to speak "real" English for those that don't know.

Sup?

What terms do you want more clarity on?

Do you cycle with the fishless method? Who does not?

 

[cloak]

I "lived" through the cycle...

Good luck.

"I don't doubt your intelligence" were the operative words btw.

 

[wooden_reefer]

Thanks for the feedback - I am quarantining just wanted to know if the method of quarantine was feasible considering the fish species.

After many year sin this hobby, I never introduce with a minimal quarantine time.:uhoh3:

Yes it is feasible.

You have to make sure that the medium for QT has been robustly cycled using the fishless method. Do not use LR or any rock as the medium of filtration in QT.

I view a properly set up UV against mostly bacterial infection (not ich) as necessary, practically speaking. When you QT multiply fish, a properly set up UV is a necessity.

If you are a real newbie unsure about disease control, don't QT multiple fish at a time!

 

[Meercat_Maric]

Tell me how it has been "established"?

Regular water changes and established bacteria in the system.

 

[wooden_reefer]

I often QT 5 6 fish at once, sometimes rather large.

Ich per se is never the issue. Ammonia in general will not be the problem.

The real danger is virulent bacterial infection not sensitive to any antibiotic on hand. No matter how experienced you are, bacterial infection could happen even with good UV setup.

But if you win you really truely win, long term. Little work, successful QT, ich eradicated, and incompatibility problem solved.

 

[wooden_reefer]

Regular water changes and established bacteria in the system.

Water change is often not the issue.

Your biological filter medium in QT MUST have experienced enough ammonia and processed it, and have done so recently before QT starts.

Not just robbing from DT only. IT is ok to rob some seed from DT, but robust cycling of the QT medium using pulses of ammonia is necessary in general.

But since in your case it is only two small fish, you might have been lucky that a less robust cycling might serve you well.

I don't like chances and I always urge you to cycle the medium for QT robustly and deliberately in advance using pulses of ammonia.