dwarf angel question
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Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
My guess is that it is a male - A better photo of him directly from the side showing the blue on the tail would help clarify. In one photo it appears that the area behind the black bars has lightened, which is another indication of a male. I have read that in Herald's angels the angel fin I referred to above is indicative of a male - I am wondering if that may not also be true of flames...The black bars are nice and wide, also indicating male.
The fact that he's been alone for years without the presence of another male, including any males of different species would help one assume he's become male also. Normally the male is larger than the female - your fish has gotten quite big. But I've never seen a 10 year old female
So I don't have anything to compare it to.
My vote is male. If you could find a young female , it would sure be neat to see how he reacts. (Even if your fish is female, I wouldn''t add anything but a female/juvenile to the tank - this fish is probably not ever going to accept a submissive role, besides where you find a larger fish?
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If Iwas doing this , I would definitely only try it with a "cage" of some sort, where the little angel can swim to safety if need be. Unless you know you'll be able to catch her if need be.
The hardest thing where I live is finding a juvenile.
The fact that he's been alone for years without the presence of another male, including any males of different species would help one assume he's become male also. Normally the male is larger than the female - your fish has gotten quite big. But I've never seen a 10 year old female
So I don't have anything to compare it to. My vote is male. If you could find a young female , it would sure be neat to see how he reacts. (Even if your fish is female, I wouldn''t add anything but a female/juvenile to the tank - this fish is probably not ever going to accept a submissive role, besides where you find a larger fish?
) If Iwas doing this , I would definitely only try it with a "cage" of some sort, where the little angel can swim to safety if need be. Unless you know you'll be able to catch her if need be.
The hardest thing where I live is finding a juvenile.
tony13
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Angel fish I assume you were talking about my Flame? You are right about the lighter color behind the bars and the thickness of the bars. I guess I'll have to start calling her HIM.
Sounds like you appreciate your angels too, I have to get a side pic of him, you'll love the spots on the top fin and the blue with the markings on his rear fins. Like you said they also come to a nice angle.
Sounds like you appreciate your angels too, I have to get a side pic of him, you'll love the spots on the top fin and the blue with the markings on his rear fins. Like you said they also come to a nice angle.
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
I'm so embarrassed -- Sorry about that
The flameback as far as I know, only shows sexual dichromatism during the mating itself, by then you've already accomplished your goal.
They get up to about 3 inches - maximum. How long is yours from nose to tip of tail? About the only thing I can think of to go on is that if its fairly large and you've had him for more than a year, without the presence of other angels, there's a good chance he's a male.
The main thing though is to find a fish that is m-u-c-h smaller and and an obvious juvenile
The best way IMO is to set up a quarantine tank with some LR and even better, if possible , macros - C. acanthops loves macros. Buy your teeny one and let her acclimate in there for 2-3 days, then catch your "male' and add him to the quarantine tank. You'll know right away if they are ok, but expect some chasing. If the female must cower in a top corner of the tank, then it's probably a failure - you can give it a little time if he's not physically hurting her, but the longer this goes on , the more likely she is to succomb to disease from the stress.
Actually it's the better way for the flames, too. I was thinking in terms of favoring the 10 year old fish and not wanting to stress him by this extra moving around.
.HTH
-- Sorry about thatThe flameback as far as I know, only shows sexual dichromatism during the mating itself, by then you've already accomplished your goal.
They get up to about 3 inches - maximum. How long is yours from nose to tip of tail? About the only thing I can think of to go on is that if its fairly large and you've had him for more than a year, without the presence of other angels, there's a good chance he's a male.
The main thing though is to find a fish that is m-u-c-h smaller and and an obvious juvenile
The best way IMO is to set up a quarantine tank with some LR and even better, if possible , macros - C. acanthops loves macros. Buy your teeny one and let her acclimate in there for 2-3 days, then catch your "male' and add him to the quarantine tank. You'll know right away if they are ok, but expect some chasing. If the female must cower in a top corner of the tank, then it's probably a failure - you can give it a little time if he's not physically hurting her, but the longer this goes on , the more likely she is to succomb to disease from the stress.
Actually it's the better way for the flames, too. I was thinking in terms of favoring the 10 year old fish and not wanting to stress him by this extra moving around.
.HTH
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
Shows all the signs of "maleness" 
I love those spots on the dorsal fin - that's so pretty
It's hard to tell when trying to pair up fish how they'll react - while it would seem yours will be set in his ways and resist an angel addition to the tank, I have also read of older fish seeming grateful/eager/relieved that a mate was added.
Another consideration is that mating takes a lot of energy & can even be stressful, you sure want to be careful to provide the healthiest, most diverse diet possible - you obviously are doing a great job of feeding him well & don't need advice from me on that
Uuum... what do you feed this guy, BTW? Any tips for longevity in dwarf angels?
I love those spots on the dorsal fin - that's so pretty
It's hard to tell when trying to pair up fish how they'll react - while it would seem yours will be set in his ways and resist an angel addition to the tank, I have also read of older fish seeming grateful/eager/relieved that a mate was added.
Another consideration is that mating takes a lot of energy & can even be stressful, you sure want to be careful to provide the healthiest, most diverse diet possible - you obviously are doing a great job of feeding him well & don't need advice from me on that
Uuum... what do you feed this guy, BTW? Any tips for longevity in dwarf angels?
tony13
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Like you I love the angels but was always afraid to add another because the size of the tanks I had. (75 & 58) Now with the new 210 I was thinking there's enough room for two and they could avoid each other if they didn't get along. I'd want to add an African Flameback though and not another Flame Angel.
Feeding I've fed just about everything. I have to admit I do feed alot of different mixes of flake food 75% of the time. Otherwise it's brine (frozen and live), mysis, bloodworms, cyclopeeze. I've added a pair of Blue Troat Triggers and Anthias to the new tank so I'm going to try alittle more meatier foods and not so much flake all the time.
Feeding I've fed just about everything. I have to admit I do feed alot of different mixes of flake food 75% of the time. Otherwise it's brine (frozen and live), mysis, bloodworms, cyclopeeze. I've added a pair of Blue Troat Triggers and Anthias to the new tank so I'm going to try alittle more meatier foods and not so much flake all the time.
