Dwarf Angles vs. SPS/LPS

[Brem]

Hi Guys!

Small question from The Netherlands!

I'm waiting for my new tank to arrive (100x65x55) thumbsup

Now i'm browsing for some small goby's (its gonna be an SPS tank with few LPS and the max size of fishes will be 1- to 8cm (AT MAX!).

Now I really want to have a small Anglefish that is 'reefsafe' with SPS/LPS.

Do you guys now what a 'reefsafe' anglefish will be ( I adore the Eibli Angle but that one isnt reefsafe at all!)

can you guys help me out, Please?

Greetings Brem, The Netherlands

(sorry for my bad English!)

 

[CedzAquAddictio]

Welcome to RC...

You have a beast of a tank coming in. Check out the swallowtail angel. As reef safe as angels get...

Best of luck!!!

 

[downbeach]

The only angels that I believe to be truly "reef safe" are from the genus, Genicanthus.
The genus Centropyge are one of my favorite fish, but every one I've ever had developed a taste for something in my tank, i.e. LPS, SPS, Clam, etc. You could get lucky, but it's a crap shoot.

(I wish my Dutch was as bad as your English)

 

[NYCBOB]

I have always kept flame and coral beauty with no issue.

 

[moatdaddy]

I think his tank is in cm not inches. Darn Americans. 99% of the world uses the metric system. USA tried to adopt it in the 70s but we couldn't grasp it. I recommend the coral beauty.

 

[Mike31154]

I have a Singapore (vermiculated) Angelfish. No problems so far & it's been in the tank with coral for 5 years.

 

[Brem]

Hey Guys!

True the tank will be in cm's!
That Genicanthus angles are superb!

well... the tank i'm waiting for will be mostly sps so i really need to be 98% sure that the dwarf angle will be reefsafe with sps..

I've heard about angles that don't eat any sps but that they prefer zoa's, clams and Euphillya's (lps).

I'm also looking for two perfect smbiotic goby/shrimp couples.
Ive got some connections by a Wholesaler (www.dejongmarinelife.nl)

and i really love the 'Lotilla graciliosa Goby' with a 'Alpheus sp. (yellow)'
but I know these are a bit rare to acquire. Does anyone have experience with these?

Greetings to you all!

 

[Mr. Bill]

Sometimes it might depend on what corals you have. I've personally kept Coral Beauties, Flame- and Bicolor Angels with no issue. I have, however, heard of a particular dwarf angel being a "model citizen", sometimes for years, until a certain coral was added, and suddenly it couldn't be kept away from the new addition.

 

[Brem]

Yes i've heard of those story's to..

And I really want to have a Great SPS (Zeosystem?) tank with a diversity of symbiotic coral goby's (G. Okinawae, G. Atrangulatus etc.).

So maybe leaving the dwarfangle to keep a peacefull system.

If anyone comes up with an Angel that is (98% sure) reefsafe.. give me a sign^^

any other ideas will be fine to!

 

[Toddrtrex]

Video instead of words. The SPS is left alone, the fleshy LPS....

Same behavior with any other dwarf angel that I have kept.

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[HumbleFish]

I have always kept flame and coral beauty with no issue.

+1 If you're gonna roll the dice on Centropyge, these two seem to be your best bet.

I have a Singapore (vermiculated) Angelfish. No problems so far & it's been in the tank with coral for 5 years.

I would love to try this; do you overfeed or do anything special to keep him from nipping?

FWIW, I have a Lemonpeel that does nip at some of my LPS (esp my frogspawn). He would probably decimate a frag, but this frogspawn is large enough that the growth seems to keeps up with his nipping. I do overfeed in an effort to keep his appetite in check. I'll give him something else to nip at - nori or a small clam.

 

[Mike31154]

Originally Posted by Mike31154
I have a Singapore (vermiculated) Angelfish. No problems so far & it's been in the tank with coral for 5 years.

I would love to try this; do you overfeed or do anything special to keep him from nipping?

FWIW, I have a Lemonpeel that does nip at some of my LPS (esp my frogspawn). He would probably decimate a frag, but this frogspawn is large enough that the growth seems to keeps up with his nipping. I do overfeed in an effort to keep his appetite in check. I'll give him something else to nip at - nori or a small clam.

I do not overfeed. He competes for the flake, granular & thawed frozen food with the other tank inhabitants. He's one of the smarter customers in my system, being the first one to discover where the food drops from. I have an Eheim autofeeder mounted on the rim of the tank with a rectangular acrylic extension that holds the food until it soaks a bit. It prevents the food from floating away the instant it hits the water surface. The Singapore was the first to discover the rectangular food holder and comes up to peck at the flakes floating in there. This helps bring them down into the water where the other fish (Yellow Tang, Maroon Clownfish) go into their feeding frenzy chasing the food down. I have a pair of spawning Maroons & the male is usually busy tending a clutch of eggs, so he stays put, relying on what floats by near the BTA to stay fed. Both the Yellow Tang & female Maroon have learned to follow the Singapore's lead and start hanging out beneath the feeder come feeding time. The feeding schedule has been set at 3 feedings per day for years now, so they've all got if figured out. The Yellow Tang takes nori from a veggie clip and the Singapore will also take a shot of nori.

I have a good sized hammer coral colony, kenya tree & other assorted softies, LPS as well as a few SPS pieces. The Singapore hasn't touched a one. I have seen him take the odd peck at the live rock from time to time. I assume he's finding a pod or some other minute organism on there that he likes.