EcoTech Marine VorTech MP40 Release Information

[jdsabin1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650139#post6650139 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
The battery backup is an accessory to the VorTech pump. It will be sold in an enclosure with a charging circuit as a separate entity from the pump itself. The pump is capable of working with the battery backup out of the box.

-Tim

Will this be available when the pumps are in the channel in March or do we have to wait? Approximately how much will this battery enclosure cost? Will a person need just one for multiple pumps or is it a 1:1 ratio?

Thank you.

-Jeff

 

[EcoTech Marine]

The battery will be available within the first few months of availability of the VorTech. There's a running competition to see whether IC or ETM get's their product on the shelves first

No idea of expected MSRP for the battery yet.

-Tim

 

[smleee]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6650131#post6650131 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jbirdjjones10
But man this looks sweet, Esp for the inwall design ppl to be able to put it on all 3 sides.

Yep.

eee

 

[mwood]

Would they run on the bottom of a BB tank pointed up?

 

[mattseattle]

sure they would...

 

[1SickReefer]

My Guess is yes also. Maybe not though real think glass and starboard though... i dunno

 

[kellymm7149]

nice idea but for 345.00 without a controller ill stick with the tunzes a least they have a track record

 

[DerekW]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6651194#post6651194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwood
Would they run on the bottom of a BB tank pointed up?

Awesome idea....
A reef fountain

 

[1SickReefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6651733#post6651733 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kellymm7149
nice idea but for 345.00 without a controller ill stick with the tunzes a least they have a track record

That is the MAX MSRP. I highly dought they will retail for that much if they want to stay competitive with Tunze. I am thinking 250 - 275. but as always I could be wrong

 

[honey]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6651194#post6651194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mwood
Would they run on the bottom of a BB tank pointed up?

I'm 100% sure I have seen that done with a Tunze here at RC but can't find the thread.
Searching for it, I only found the thread with a Tunze pointing down at a BB:


http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=504494

....but you can't do that (point it down like in the pics) with a VorTech, since the motor has to be outside of the water.

I *think* the Tunze pointing up it was in the Tunze forum? I'm almost sure I have the pics in my hard disk...

Honey

 

[smleee]

Woo Hoo! The wife has agreed to let me get one! Essentially as a test before we do the inwall and if all goes well I can get another one.

eee

 

[EcoTech Marine]

You can mount the VorTech to the bottom of the aquarium pointing up, provided that the total clamping distance does not exceed the 3/4" gap for which it is spec'd.

I don't recall if it was mentioned in the announcment or not, however you may operate the VorTech on any of the wave-controllers currently on the market... One thing to keep in mind: When using the battery backup and a standard wave-timer device, the VorTech will simply switch to battery mode when the wavemaker turns it off.

Justin

 

[maxxII]

Do the Vortech's require a "soft start" wave maker, or not?

Nick

 

[EcoTech Marine]

"soft start" as you say, is built in.

 

[mwood]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6658945#post6658945 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
"soft start" as you say, is built in.

Is that why you shouldn't use a wavetimer with less than a minute cycle time, because it takes a few seconds to start up?

 

[SeanT]

Re: EcoTech Marine VorTech MP40 Release Information

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6641855#post6641855 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
The official Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the VorTech MP40 is $345.00. This price is a maximum suggested retail price; we do not impose price minimums. Price will vary from vendor to vendor.

The product consumes between 35 and 40 watts of energy at its highest output, some pumps will operate at higher wattage during break in. Our lab tested flow rate is 3100 gph.

The VorTech provides ~25% more flow then the performance we measured from our closest competitor, and does this at 10% less wattage, amounting to a product which is overall ~30% more efficient.

Hey Tim,
A couple questions about thess statements I was hoping you would comment on.
The term "closest competitor" is relative.
At your price point and stated gph I would say that Tunze fits that bill over anyone else, especially taking design into consideration.

That being the case, you are running a reported 5-10 watts less than the Tunze 6100 however, you are not providing 25% more flow, in fact you would be running 4% less flow.
And at your specified numbers it is 7.7-8.8% more efficient in energy consumption.

I am just trying to figure out where you got your %'s from...what competitor did you use as a baseline?

Thanks,
Sean

 

[smleee]

Re: EcoTech Marine VorTech MP40 Release Information

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6641855#post6641855 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
During the development of this product we benchmarked it against several other products using a standard procedure to measure the flow rate of the pump. We found that some of our competitors were not hitting their claimed flow rate.

Well that's the "gray area", the standard procedure; so I guess he'd have to explain how they measure flow rate on those things!

eee

 

[Bladez]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6657915#post6657915 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by EcoTech Marine
You can mount the VorTech to the bottom of the aquarium pointing up, provided that the total clamping distance does not exceed the 3/4" gap for which it is spec'd.

Not that many people would be interested doing something like this, but the bottom of most glass tanks are considerably thicker than the sides. My 200g Oceanic has 1/2" walls and a 1"-1 1/4" thick bottom.

 

[GSchiemer]

1 1/4" glass on the bottom of a 200 gallon aquarium?! Are you certain of that? Is it something you custom ordered because I can't believe that Oceanic would build it that way.

 

[wbeavers]

Looks to me like the 11/4" is 3/4" glass & 1/2" starboard; but just a guess.