Elegance Experts

DashTrash400

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Here is my second shot at trying out an elegance. The first one I tried was an aussie I just couldn't make it happy with flow or light and a feeding response was nill. I have since started a newer bigger tank and have tried another. It seems to be doing good so far. It's in the bottom left corner or my tank in the sand with little flow. Tentacles are sticky and it's eating well. Seems as though some color around the discussion has faded but for the most part seems fine. It didn't like the light on the first day so it's been a week and it's been shaded by many layers of Window screen. If you could please give your expert opinion and tell me how you think it's doing and based on the shots below. I included a rear shot as well to allow confirmation that it is aussie based on its skeleton. Thanks.

Mike

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if you have poor water parameters or other undetermined causes or stresses, it could bail out of its skeleton. It could lead to the colonyโ€™s loss.
 
Thanks for that this tank as well as my other has been consistent. In the other tank it lasted for about a year just continued depleting slowly. Maybe the other was an unhealthy specimen also because never did it look like this. So would you say it's looking good? Any more advice/opinions.
 
it looks really good iv found that one of the biggest health risks for elegance is flow because they can really fluff out and it is healthy for them to do so, so if you see any tissue ression or loss of triticale stickiness move it "if possible" to a low or almost no flow place in the tank.
 
Thanks for that. As for my previous one I may have moved it to late as it was in good flow for a short while. Now I also read they can tolerate and flow after they are healthy and acclimated it will just effect there tentacle extension. As for stickiness my other never had a feeding response like this one I used to have to lay food on him and cover with a bottle top in hopes that he will eat. This one sucks it in immediately. How do the Tentacles look not a bit on the short side? I remember reading if the oral discount was large with short Tentacles it could be to much light.
it looks really good iv found that one of the biggest health risks for elegance is flow because they can really fluff out and it is healthy for them to do so, so if you see any tissue ression or loss of triticale stickiness move it "if possible" to a low or almost no flow place in the tank.
 
I was thinking the tentacles look a bit short.. But it will be fine id say.. It may even take a while yo get used to your lights
 
Ya I wasn't sure but thanks for your input. They look kind of short to me as well. Hopefully it holds up. As far as still getting used to my lights when do you think I can start removing layers of screen. It's been on for a week.
I was thinking the tentacles look a bit short.. But it will be fine id say.. It may even take a while yo get used to your lights
 
I really couldnt tell you for sure.. But if its a truly healthy elegance from a good stock with no infections,id say go ahead and start slow..
 
Well things haven't been going great. The elegance doesn't seem to be expanding as much and the tentacles are Def shorter now. I'm thinking the issue is still light. Should I shade it more or put more light on it based on the picture. Water tested yesterday nothing out of params. Any suggestions please feel free to share as I don't want to loose another.
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Ya thy sure are. Hoping this one will come back strong. Just tried to feed it some my sis and it still has a feeding response and sticky tentacles. Fingers crossed. Anyone else?
 
Well today seems to be a better day he appears to be a whole lot happier. Tentacles are still a bit short but looks ok for the most part. Wondering if the feeding yesterday did the trick?
 
Elegance corals are typically collected in estuary type environments. So consider the following:

Most estuaries are low flow, high light, and high turbidity (water).

Elegance corals can adapt to most any lighting conditions, from moderate to extremely strong lighting. Water flow is where many reef keepers fail. Elegance corals do not handle strong currents very well. Soft to moderate water flow is ideal, and indirect current is best.

Also, elegance corals actually like dirty environments. These guys come from muck, and are used to having particulate matter in the water column. Sticking an elegance coral in a sterile "reef" tank is not ideal, and not what these guys are used to.

~Michael
 
A post of mine from an earlier thread.

A post of mine from an earlier thread.

Elegance coral larvae can not settle in sandy grass flats or muddy sediments. The first tide change, or storm that moved through would disturb the bottom, and cover the tiny larvae causing it to die. They need a solid and fixed structure to settle on, go through metamorphosis, and grow. This is typically the reef itself. As the newly settled coral grows, it takes on the appearance of an ice cream cone standing up on its tip. This is a very tiny point of attachment for a coral that's getting larger and larger. At some point, it will break free of the reef. There are many variables that determine where these corals will spend the rest of their lives. The size of the coral when it breaks free, and the speed and direction of the water have a great impact on this. If the coral is relatively small and a large powerful storm moves through, the coral may be washed great distances away and end up in rubble zones, or grass flats. If the coral is growing on the fore reef, it may simply drop to the deep silt beds below. The coral may simply tip over, or fall just a few feet, and spend the rest of its life on the reef itself. This is why we find elegance corals in many different habitats. From clean nutrient poor waters, to turbid muddy environments. Basically anywhere they can hang on and eek out an existence. Even siblings from the same parent coral, may be found in completely different habitats. The growth, and overall health of the coral is influenced by the environment it lives in. This creates corals that may look very different. So different that at one point it was suggested that there were actually two species of "elegance corals". Catalaphyllia jardeni, the larger, faster growing, coral with long tentacles, and Catalaphyllia picteti, the smaller, slower growing, coral with short stubby tentacles. We now know that there is only one species, and the differences are simply environmentally influenced. Due to the wide range of habitats this coral can live in, we can examine individuals from these different habitats and determine what environmental influences enable them to prosper, and what environmental influences cause them to struggle.

If we examine C. jardeni from turbid, nutrient rich environments, like grass flats, rubble zones, or deep silt beds, we typically find skeletons that resemble small flattened cone shapes. These corals typically grow somewhere around 1/4" per year, and have comparatively short tentacles. These are the corals that were once mistakenly refereed to as C. picteti. If we examine corals from more nutrient poor environments, like the reef itself, or near by, we find corals that grow much larger, have meandering skeletons, and long tentacles. These corals typically grow around 1 1/4" per year, or more. Easily four or five times the growth rate of their relatives in more nutrient rich environments.
 
The coral seems to be laying on its side. In other words, the tissue that overlaps the top of the skeleton is laying in the sand. This compresses the tissue between the sand and the skeleton and can lead to injury, and the loss of the coral. If it were my coral, I'd stand the it up, so the polyp faces the light, and is not laying in the sand.

HTH
EC
 
I have had my elagance coral in high flow area and its still alive goin on 6 years. Also I do not hand feed it ever, it will not take any food so I just stop trying. It's still sticky and opens wide, everyday. I would just leave it and see how it responds. One last thing he also loves to be next to the return for the close loop which is pushing 2800/ hr. I have tried to move it like in lesser flow areas and it shriviled up.
 
Here's a pic just taken as proof. Not 100% as its not a video.
 

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The coral seems to be laying on its side. In other words, the tissue that overlaps the top of the skeleton is laying in the sand. This compresses the tissue between the sand and the skeleton and can lead to injury, and the loss of the coral. If it were my coral, I'd stand the it up, so the polyp faces the light, and is not laying in the sand.

HTH
EC
+1 mine sits in the sand and points up toward the light, only issue I have is the bottom 1/4 of it gets pushed under the Skelton from the current. I also loved your write up from earlier.
 
The coral seems to be laying on its side. In other words, the tissue that overlaps the top of the skeleton is laying in the sand. This compresses the tissue between the sand and the skeleton and can lead to injury, and the loss of the coral. If it were my coral, I'd stand the it up, so the polyp faces the light, and is not laying in the sand.

HTH
EC

I would agree, get it standing in the sand or epoxy it to a piece of LR.

Here's a pic just taken as proof. Not 100% as its not a video.

Wow, quite an achievement :celeb1:
 

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