emergency!!!!!!

Thank you Bill, I feel better knowing I have help now, so far the other contractor hasn't shown up, it looks like I'll have to make some other calls, I'm assuming from what the first contractor said it will be at least a week before anything happens inside, they first have to fix where the water is comming in then let the wood sheet rock and whatever else got wet dry out then start fixing the inside. He did tell me it would be 3-4 weeks worth of work. I was freeking out before thinking everything needed to be done today. I do have the 55 gal drum with SW already made just in case the ceiling came down and had to move stuff quickly but so far it looks like the ceiling will hold over the tank not so sure about the middle of the room but over the tank seems to be ok for now, I'll just keep praying.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8064678#post8064678 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mott768
Thank you Bill, I feel better knowing I have help now, so far the other contractor hasn't shown up, it looks like I'll have to make some other calls, I'm assuming from what the first contractor said it will be at least a week before anything happens inside, they first have to fix where the water is comming in then let the wood sheet rock and whatever else got wet dry out then start fixing the inside. He did tell me it would be 3-4 weeks worth of work. I was freeking out before thinking everything needed to be done today. I do have the 55 gal drum with SW already made just in case the ceiling came down and had to move stuff quickly but so far it looks like the ceiling will hold over the tank not so sure about the middle of the room but over the tank seems to be ok for now, I'll just keep praying.
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You may want to consider taking a matte knife to the sections that look like they are about to give way. It will avoid them just collapsing and potentially bringing down adjacent sections of the cieling, and it also may aide in the drying if more of the wet structure is exposed to open air inside the house. Sheetrock is also easier (in my opinion) to take down wet. Less "Fly-a-way" chunks and less dust. I would only take down the sections that appear in dire straites, though.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8064509#post8064509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mott768


mfisher2112 & Sk8r
thank you for the idea with building a frame around the tank, fellow reefers to the rescue, I am feeling a little better now, still worried but not as bad, I'll talk to the other contractors about building the cage and seeing what other options there is to spraying the popcorn, I know they wont replace the whole ceiling and the insurance will probably only pay for the repair not a whole ceiling I don't know what or if any other way the put that stuff up, I'm sure another reason the one guy told me to move the tank was he doesn't want to be responsible if they brake the tank but with that cage idea I feel better about having it protected I'll probable do what Matt suggested and take the corals and fish out and store them in a temp tank and have a couple of people hold the things I can't fit until the job is done and leave the rock, sand and tank in place with the plastic covered cage.
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If you can get the 2x4 frame built, that's even better for temporary structure, and for use near contractors that may not be as careful around your tank as you would be. I use the PVC because I can take it apart, its easy to move, and I re-use it in different configurations all the time. (been rennovating a 110 year old house for nearly 3 years now! You learn some neat tricks along the way! And ALOT about how NOT to do things! LOL!)

Seems like everything may come together for you now. Keep on truckin! It will work out!
 
I sure hope so, well the wind has stopped and so has the drip I did take a chunk down that was barely hanging on, I did the touch test in the other area it seems like it will hold ( I hope) I don't want to start taking down the sheetrock #1 don't know if I can #2 don't want to cause more work and mess my wife thinks see got all the stains out of the carpet for now. I just put the light back on the tank I think as long as the wind doesn't start to blow it wont leak anymore, that's if there isn't any damage to the roof.
 
If you just set up a fan in that area to try to dry things out, it will help harden the remaining sheetrock. We had a 2nd floor shower that tried to come through the ceiling on a recently-bought house, and we found that gypsum sheetrock will re-harden if dry. We did the trick of puncturing the foot-wide bubble and draining it, then blew fans. It will also be better in the mold department, because sheetrock molds like crazy, at least in the south.

If you do get mold, X-14 spray will knock it instantly, but it is essentially aerosoled Chlorox, and you will want your tank shielded before you use it, or Kilz paint, same thing: fumy. Just tell your contractors advise you before using anything with fumes, period.

Before you do get a frame built, you can thumbtack filmy plastic to the ceiling that's sound, around your tank. I swear at one point we had 5 different repair companies in our drive at once, and when the air conditioning would come on, our whole front room looked as if it had been swallowed by an anemone---rather a pretty effect with the ceiling lights on, but one I'm not reluctant to have seen the last of!

Best of luck to you. Have a stiff Scotch and get some sleep!
 
Tom, I'm really sorry to hear about your roof and ceiling. If you want I'd be happy to come by and shoot a cage together for your tank. We would just have to go to the Depot and pick up a few 2x4's. It's really not that difficult, a framing nailer really helps-which fortunately I have. I don't know how much a contractor is going to charge you to build one, but I'd venture to guess, it would be expensive to say the least. My rate is real cheap...FREE. A word of advice...I would fight tooth and nail with the insurance company to replace as much of the ceiling as possible. For one mold is a real problem around here and if you get black mold or green mold...lookout wallet. I friend of mine had some stange green toxic Jersey mold in his house and it cost him ALOT of money( ie. thousands) to remedy. Second, the popcorn ceiling is going to change color wherever is was wet which sounds like a pretty large area, and painting over popcorn, is a real mess. I know from experience. I apologize if i re-iterated what others have said, but I didn't read the whole thread. For the members that don't know Tom, he's a great guy that deserves our business ad help. If you need anything else, just let me know.
 
Hey Dave,
thank you soo much I could definitely use your help with the cage, I did put a fan blowing towards the ceiling before I took a nap and it seems it's to be dry when I looked in the hole the plywood still has a couple of damp spots so I'm leaving the fan run for the night, still have a massive headache and I still get sick to my stomach every time I look in the family room and I'm not looking forward to the job ahead, the area is big enough where the contractor wants to replace the damage with a full 4X8 sheet of drywall. I was hoping when I woke up it was all just a bad dream
 
Tom,

The person that came out - was it a contractor or someone from a restoration company? Did they put any fans or dehumidifiers out?

I had the same problem today - though not around my SW tank - we had actually just moved my FW tank to do a room remodel, and had pulled up the carpeting and were laying subfloor today when the rain started coming in one of the walls - we had a tree come down in the storms last month that hit the roof, and it apparently damaged the flashing, we didn't know it until it started raining in today.

Anyway, I had a restoration company come out, they put up some flashing on the roof where it was damaged and the water coming in (because of the location, they couldn't tarp it) and the pulled out ALL the damaged sheetrock & then some (to get it to where it was dry) and set an industrial fan & dehumidifier in the room to help dry it out.

Now, I'm an insurance claims adjuster, so I knew who to call - and while I called my insurance company to report the loss, I also called the restoration company right away. Not just a contractor, but someone who does nothing but this type of emergency work.

You can't leave that wet drywall in the room, it'll spawn mold. It's just what happens.

Let me know if you have any question from an insurance standpoint I'm happy to help out. Sorry I didn't see this earlier, though, or I would've recommended a couple of restoration companies - one, in fact, that w as just telling me they were LOOKING for work in Toms River!

(Who's your insurance company, if you don't mind my asking? Did you call your agent? Were they able to help you out at all?)
 
CoralDreams,
thank you for helping, I just called a couple of contractors, didn't know about restoration companies. I will have to call a couple of them too. I have Allstate and didn't call the agent just the number for claims, we got a claim and case# and the woman told my wife don't expect them to call right away there was tons of claims be filed in our area she told us to take pictures and do what we need to do to get the leak fixed just hold onto all receipts. they weren't much help but she did say we were covered. I didn't even think of mold, I did put a fan facing the hole in the ceiling and dehumidifier in the room and it reads 55 and never kicked on I have had the AC on so that's helping with the humidity.
 
Ok, I'm going to recommend you contact some restoration companies - in your area, I'd recommend All Risk & Mark I Restoration. They'll work with your insurance company to get things taken care of, but they can start the emergency stuff right away - getting the roof tarped, getting wet drywall and carpeting out, getting dehumidifiers set up, that sort of thing.

All Risk

http://www.allriskinc.com/

Mark 1

http://www.mark1restoration.net/

They're both 24 hour services, they would be able to have someone out there tomorrow to make sure the roof is tarped and get this taken care of for you. Good luck!
 
CoralDreams
Thank you, I'll have my wife call and see if they can come out tomorrow. I just hope it doesn't rain till I can get someone out here.
 
I took CoralDreams advise and called allrisk they were just out here to do a temp fix to the roof, they said they will handle everything with the insurance co. they told me they were really back up with damage so not sure when they will be back to start the permanent fix, they told me I should hear back by Tues and if not to call the office, he also made me feel better about the tank, they said they move any furniture that needs to be move and they plastic off the room, carpets and so on, they will also wrap the tank for the day and before they leave would remove it to let it breath, he told me not to worry they do this all the time and I would be amazed how many homes have tanks and everyone say's the same thing what about my tank, so I feel a little better knowing they have experience working around tanks. I may still take all the corals and fish out to be on the safe side I will let everyone who offered to store my live stock when I know better what they need to do. Thank you everyone who expressed their concerns and offered to help, I really appreciate it, it's times like this you know who your true friends are, thank you everyone.
 
I'm so glad they were able to help you out, Tom!

Who came out from AllRisk? I'll call them and tell them they'd better take care of you, or they'll hear from ME! :)
 
Amy,
Thank you I owe you big time. My wife doesn't remember the guy's name all she remembered was that he was from Marlton NJ he told my wife to call Lou in the office on Tues, he also said I didn't loose and shingles but there was a bunch of nail pops, what appeared to happen was the wind lifted the shingles and the rain was driven under , I think Mark was the one who called originally, so far I'm happy with them. thank you again for your help :)
 
Definitely call Lou (his last name is Crisci) and again - feel free to use my name, Lou is a great guy, and I deal with him all the time.

I'm glad I was able to help! Dealing with this kind of thing is enough stress for anyone, so anything I can do, please don't hesitate to ask.
 
Glad to see everything is working out for you now! Its good to know there are still people willing to offer a helping hand in this world!

Good luck with the repairs!
 
mfisher2112
Thank you for your help, I'm glad there was people willing to help too, especially when it first happened. I'm a lot calmer than I was yesterday still sick to my stomach when I look at the ceiling and think about what's to come but with everyone who gave me support and that are going to help I'll get through it.

CoralDreams
My wife's going to call Lou tomorrow, thank you again for your help and knowledge.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8079073#post8079073 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by anabolic_1
whoever came up with "popcorn Ceilings" should be tar and feathered!

Mike.
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I agree!!!!!!
 
Well here's the update, 2 days after Allrisk came out we call and they said they were too busy to do the job at least they did the temp fix to the roof. We called a couple of other companies and got some estimates, Allstate came out today and are appraising the damage, here's a list of the work that's to be approved, room prep work, 30% of the ceiling replaced ( room size 20' X 13.5' ) new insulation, popcorn ceiling scraped new drywall primed, repaint the entire ceiling and new popcorn, (don't know if we'll actually have the popcorn part re done yet) new ceiling fan, and carpet cleaned and sanitized. They said since there was no damage to the roof that they will not pay for that, the one company we are probably going with said that they will fix the roof, they will replace the flashing and top layer of shingles for a couple of hundred which hopefully they will work into the price.

Allstate said we should have a check in a week to 10 day's after we decide on the company we want to go with, I hope to have the final estimate on Monday so right now I'm looking at least 2 weeks before the work inside begins, this is going to be a real MESSY JOB according to all the company's we talked to.

I don't know what I should do??? Should I take everything out of the tank? Or do I move the rare more expensive corals out of the tank and take the advise to rap the tank and hope for the best. Anyone who wants to help please LMK what I should do.
 
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