Emperor angel stress vs ich

[sushi4u]

I have my new emperor angel in qt and this morning it looks like white blotches on the body.

All parameters check out fine.

Here is a picture
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If Ich how sensitive are angels to copper. Would cupramine be okay.
Only problem is my emperor hasnt really began eating at all yet.

 

[Rapide]

Ich is tiny spots, not blotches... Like salt on the side of the fish.

 

[MrTuskfish]

These blotches aren't ich. If they weren't here when you got the fish, they will probably disappear on their own. Many new dish get these blotches, maybe stress induced. (IMO, "stress" is the most over-used term in the hobby, its blamed for everything )Angels and copper is a never ending debate. When the fish starts eating and assuming the blotches disappear; I'd prophylacticly treat for ich using tank-transfer and worm the fish with Prazi-Pro. Both are safe and fool-proof. Never use copper on a fish that isn't eating, unless its a life or death decision. If a fish stops eating, its the 1st sign of copper sensitivity.

 

[sushi4u]

These blotches aren't ich. If they weren't here when you got the fish, they will probably disappear on their own. Many new dish get these blotches, maybe stress induced. (IMO, "stress" is the most over-used term in the hobby, its blamed for everything )Angels and copper is a never ending debate. When the fish starts eating and assuming the blotches disappear; I'd prophylacticly treat for ich using tank-transfer and worm the fish with Prazi-Pro. Both are safe and fool-proof. Never use copper on a fish that isn't eating, unless its a life or death decision. If a fish stops eating, its the 1st sign of copper sensitivity.

Thanks a bunch.
Ill keep an eye out. Doubt it is ich but this is my first real large angel so i am alittle unsure.

Once i get this guy eating, ill definitely start treating him with prazi and do a tank transfer.

Thanks

 

[MrTuskfish]

I'd Google "marine ich" images) so you know what ich looks like. Its important to know. You'll see mostly very badly infested fish, but the individual spots appear about the same on any fish. Beautiful fish, BTW. Make sure he gets plenty of both veggies and meaty stuff. Many folks treat these guys as herbivores; they are omnivores. IME, most new angels will eat frozen mysis as a first food. Marine angle formulas and dried algae & seaweed are needed too. In QT, feed plenty and siphon out uneaten food; they don't have the grazing opportunities in a QT as they will when they get to the DT. Added vitamins really help these fish transform to fully colored adults. Raising large angel species from juvi to fully colored adult is really a thrill; for us fish-geeks who appreciate it, anyway.

 

[gg1111]

definetly not ich!! hope its just a simple fungal infection, and not velvet or brook!

 

[snorvich]

Emperor Angels are highly susceptible to "blotching" but that is not ich, it is a function, it seems, of their "mood" (if fish actually have "moods"). I raised mine from a juvenile (3.5 years now) and he still occasionally does it when he feels like it.

 

[MrTuskfish]

Emperor Angels are highly susceptible to "blotching" but that is not ich, it is a function, it seems, of their "mood" (if fish actually have "moods"). I raised mine from a juvenile (3.5 years now) and he still occasionally does it when he feels like it.

+1. Lots of fish get these blotches especially when new. This is not velvet or brooklynella, the fish would be near death if it was.