Eric's "famous" coral food recipe

you are a very wise man. thank you very much on your input and your great thread extremely appreciated kind sir.
 
By the way, I was cleaning out a drawer this morning and found an old folder that is directly relevant to this thread. IT was written on an old dot matrix printer, so I know is is old. But, check this out...I quote
"Eric,

Dick Perring offered this recipe, saying some corals absolutely need to be fed - i.e. Favia spp., which go into recession if they aren't fed in his tanks. This seems to be a great thing to add to the feeding chapter.

Would you call Dick and confirm this recipe and see if we can provide a bit more guidance on quantities, types of fish roe, etc.?

Dick Perrin, prioneer coral farmer and founder of Tropicorium in Romulus Michigan uses and recommends this formula as an all-purpose food for corals

Table shrimp
Fish roe
Egg yolk, boiled and mashed
Liquid Multi-Vitamins
Vitamin B12 (crushed tablet)
Reef Plus (SeaChem)

Perrin recommends blending or shredding with the shrimp, then mixing in the other ingredinets with a small amount of clean artifical seawater. The coral chow can then be fed immediaely, using apoultry baster to direct the mixture to the individual corals. It can also be frozen in cubes in plastic ice cube trays for future use. Perrin believes the Reef Plus supplement (vitamins, amino acids, and fatty acids) makes the food more palatable to corals, triggering a feeding response.

This is, of course, a version of my coral food with the addition in my food of a more diverse group of foods, including newer and better products, and the Selcon being the better substitute of Reef Plus. I will repost this part in the coral feeding thread, too.

Interesting, isn't it?
 
It makes my Hydnophora all warm and fuzzy (okay so I speculated on the warm part).
The feeding response is noticeable.

Ed
 
Back in my aquaculture days in graduate school (early - mid eighties), we used egg yolk to feed our larval shrimp cultures. It caused a noticeable increase in bacterial counts in the culture containers so we had to clean them more often. We also discovered it was important to screen the egg yolk down to a size our cultures could use. Grinding it up was not enough, it had to be of a particular particle size to be useful.

It was not a whole food though. Larvae fed exclusively egg yolk did not survive to the PL stage. In fact, we did not achieve our best survival rates until the egg yolk was removed from the recipe entirely.
 
I have a funny story about that.... when I was breeding betas (or trying to), I mixed some yeast and egg yolk and arthemia napuli in a bottle and put it in the frig. It exploded around about the time my mom told me I couldn't live with her anymore...
 
sihaya said:
I have a funny story about that.... when I was breeding betas (or trying to), I mixed some yeast and egg yolk and arthemia napuli in a bottle and put it in the frig. It exploded around about the time my mom told me I couldn't live with her anymore...

I'm sure that was just a coincidence. :cool: Actually, you're probably fortunate she did not mistake it for egg nog. LOL!

I have also had exploding egg experiences when attempting to concoct foods for critters. Once I decided to crack an egg into a bowl and just put the bowl in the microwave to cook it faster. ... Now all the cooks out there are laughing their a***s off right now but, at the time, I didn't know any better. It took hours to clean the microwave and a week to get the smell out of the kitchen.
 
Snarkys said:
sea urchin roe is way to costly to ever be worht it unless you are filthy rich ....

Not always... I can get a small "flat" of uni for about $5
I'd probably eat about half myself, and then use the other half for the fish.
;)
 
Isn't Uni urchin meat? ...that gross yellow stuff they put on sushi? Urchin roe would be urchin eggs I believe.
 
Uni is great fish food and probably good coral food, too - though it is not one of my favorite sushi items...never quite got the taste for it.
 
In a earlier post it was stated that Xenia and Star polyps don't capture food.

How and what should you feed them?

Thanks,
Bill
 
Light and they will feed on and be fed by the bacteria that grows on their surface and pull dissolved nutrients from the water column. I'm not sure if they might be able to move small detrital partcles caught on their surface by ciliary action into their mouths, but their mesenteries are well developed for digestion, so unless the epithelial cells can directly take up the material by phagocytosis or pinocytosis, there probably isn't much going on in terms of feeding and digestion at all except intracellularly.
 
Thanks for all of the information Eric,

I also have your book which has been a great help since I am new to reefing.

I have a list of questions I was hoping that you could help me with.

1. Things change with time, you stated a few post back that you now really like Oyster Eggs, can you tell me what's new as far as feeding corals?

2. I have DT's and Oyster Eggs should I feed them separately or with your recipe?

3. What are golden pearls and are they a key ingredient?

4. Here is the mix I was planning on making, can you tell me if this is the ok? If I need to add anything please let me know.

Ø shrimp
Ø oysters
Ø fish roe
Ø clams or mussels
Ø brine shrimp
Ø mysid shrimp
Ø Cyclop-Eze
Ø Dry fish food (new life spectrum)
Ø Selco or Reef Complete

5. I live in the Houston area (LaPorte on the bay so I have access to fresh seafood) plus as you know there are many Asian markets around. I think I have or can get most of the ingredients pretty easy but I'm not sure about the golden pearls, do you know where to get them locally?

6. So if I feed your recipe, DT's and Oyster eggs would this be the absolute best or is there something else I could do?

7. Would live brine shrimp from the fish store be better than frozen brine shrimp?

8. Do you still prefer Selco over Reef Complete?

9. What is Tahitian Blend?

I know this is a lot of questions, I appreciate any help you can give me.

Bill
 
i think Eric has moved on. you can find his new forum at marinedepot.com/forums

there is a new thread there about feeding.
 
in one of these many pages, i have read to get the seafood from the grocery store. however, everyone i see says "previously frozen"! is this what everyone is using or does your grocery store carry fresh stuff?

i also read that you just throw this and that in and get 5 sandwhich bags full, but nothing says 5 large shrimp, 2" square of cyclopeze, 35 drops of Zoe, etc. does anyone have a better guess of what they do? i'm sure i could find better info if the search worked for me!!!
 
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