im building an AIO tank and i have about 4-5 inches of width to stick a skimmer and the small eshopps skimmer will fit perfectly. has anyone used of of these before? any input? can anyone recomend a diff skimmer that would fit in such a tight squeeze? anyone have an actual dimension measurment of the vertex in-75?
eshopps skimmer anyone use?
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dizzang looks like sweet little unit but it will also have to run in under 12 inches of water 
this guy needs 13.7 thanks for the tip do you have any opinions on the ASM mini g? they are a little bit chubbier then id like but i havnt put the glass together yet. and there pumps and in the bottom of the unit
this guy needs 13.7 thanks for the tip do you have any opinions on the ASM mini g? they are a little bit chubbier then id like but i havnt put the glass together yet. and there pumps and in the bottom of the unit
skimmy
T3am Zissou
well, your other option is to buy the eshopps and to replace the pump with something nicer, scince it already fits.
I would look at using a QO 1200...
think of it as a small mini laguna pond pump, but made by sicce for pentair. the thing that makes this pump so damn cool is that the impellar floats free without attaching to the volute, and that the impellar well and outlet are larger than a maxi-jet. so if you mesh mod the impellar and make a nice venturi from the volute, you'll easily get around 300+ lph of air and lower the watts.
or you could use a sedra 2500 pinwheel pump on it...
(asm's replacement pump for the G-1)
I havent seen the newer version of the ASM mini w/modded rio pump... but the sound of that doesnt excite me much...
the other thing you could do is use a nice small hob skimmer like the new WM H1 that's going to be available in a few weeks. the pump sits in the body so only the inlet and outlet would sit in the AIO's sump compartment. again, it uses the sedra 2500 pump, but WM's mods on it are top knotch, and the skimmer design is sweet. i think it's going to street for $250 but dont quote me.
Well worth every penny...
I would look at using a QO 1200...
think of it as a small mini laguna pond pump, but made by sicce for pentair. the thing that makes this pump so damn cool is that the impellar floats free without attaching to the volute, and that the impellar well and outlet are larger than a maxi-jet. so if you mesh mod the impellar and make a nice venturi from the volute, you'll easily get around 300+ lph of air and lower the watts.
or you could use a sedra 2500 pinwheel pump on it...
(asm's replacement pump for the G-1)
I havent seen the newer version of the ASM mini w/modded rio pump... but the sound of that doesnt excite me much...
the other thing you could do is use a nice small hob skimmer like the new WM H1 that's going to be available in a few weeks. the pump sits in the body so only the inlet and outlet would sit in the AIO's sump compartment. again, it uses the sedra 2500 pump, but WM's mods on it are top knotch, and the skimmer design is sweet. i think it's going to street for $250 but dont quote me.
Well worth every penny...
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imnotanerd
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the eshoppe skimmers are really impressive. We carry a full line of them and next to the other skimmer that are twice as much they perform just as well.
skimmy my man you are a wealth of skimmer knowledge
what problems have you had w resun pumps? i have no experience w them. are they the same pumps that are on the vertex skimmers?
i didnt realize the ASM uses a RIO pump. my POS skimmer i have now runs a rio and its garbage not to mention i have to fix or replace about 2 rios a week at work for customers.
i investigated the eshopps skimmer at work today and the pump litterally just sticks into a hole on the side and is only held in place by the fittings being a bit tight. do you think the pumps youve recomended would be able to work the same way? is WM warner marine? that skimmer looks BA for the size but 250 is a bit steep specially since id have to mod the intake slightly.
im not a nerd: my boss says the same thing but hes also selling them. have you used them? seen them in use?
thanks for the replies people
what problems have you had w resun pumps? i have no experience w them. are they the same pumps that are on the vertex skimmers?
i didnt realize the ASM uses a RIO pump. my POS skimmer i have now runs a rio and its garbage not to mention i have to fix or replace about 2 rios a week at work for customers.
i investigated the eshopps skimmer at work today and the pump litterally just sticks into a hole on the side and is only held in place by the fittings being a bit tight. do you think the pumps youve recomended would be able to work the same way? is WM warner marine? that skimmer looks BA for the size but 250 is a bit steep specially since id have to mod the intake slightly.
im not a nerd: my boss says the same thing but hes also selling them. have you used them? seen them in use?
thanks for the replies people
wrestle1952
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I say an Eshopps at my LFS. That thing is an awesome skimmer. It's sleek, compact, and really produces a lot of very fine bubbles, excellent skimate, and little if any bubbles returning to the tank. I'm going to get a large model for my next tank.
skimmy
T3am Zissou
look at the vertex skimmers...just because you can get a resun to perform decently doesnt make it a decent pump....
on the vertex owner's thread you will see post after post about these crappy pumps failing...
And they didnt even change out thre pump in gen 2, they just gave it the better made impeller it should have come with in the first place.
frankly I dont have any freakin clue why companies are still using these completely lame POS resun pumps for skimmers. IMO, if you use a resun pump on your skimmer design, then your an idiot...
especially when there's so many other pumps that are better, and probably dont cost much more.
the eshopps is just another in a long line of euro-reef/h&s knock off skimmers that are made from sub par pumps and materials.
I'd take a bubble magus or even an octopus skimmer before i owned one of these resun powered poser skimmers.
ok i picked up my glass today and here is what im working with. the footprint of my whole tank is 20x 24 it will be an all in one tank so i have a piece of graylight that will be used as the back false wall i can put it as far foreward or back as i want but id like to keep the display as cube-ish as possible but after looking at the pieces in real life i would be ok with dedicating 6 inches to a skimmer. i would like to have a big ballin skimmer that will keep it squeaky clean. oversized would be nice
frenchie
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pumps didn't fail on vertex skimmers it was impellars, had some material left on them from polishing shafts, some people found little bit of grit on impellars when they locked up. i have had gen I vertex 180 with no problems plus anyone with problems got new impellars or pumps right away.
wrestle1952
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In a previous post I stated i saw an Eshopps in action at my LFS. The skimmer is on a tank with non-photosynthetic corals that need to be fed on a regular basis adding to the bioload. It seems to handle it just fine. I have not seen an Octopus in any LFS and I live in the San Francisco Bay Area where there are a large amount of reefers. Any store I've been to says they don't carry Octopus due to the lack of customer support. The other thing about the Octopus skimmers (HOB anyway) is the need to mod it to make it work correctly. Cutting teeth from the needle wheels, replacing pumps, etc. Kind of makes me leary although I've heard they do produce great skimate. Price is right too. I just worry about quality control.
skimmy
T3am Zissou
You should re-read if that's what you think...
resun pumps are infamous for failure in many different applications, especially as skimmer pumps, and it isnt the proprietory impellar vertex makes for the resun pump that causes it.... that was just some special lovin' for you from vertex.
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