Euro-reef or Asm?
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The Grim Reefer
Ready for some NOBALL!!!
With that big a sump I would move up to the 180. I am in a position where I can afford to buy a bigger skimmer if this doesnt work out. I just wanted to see what this little one would do.
BryanJ
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I have been hoping that euroreef would make a promotional 180 like they did with the 80. I would buy it today if they made one. It is all about the contact time and how fine the bubbles are. My turbofloater does a great job it is just to small for the job. thanks for the tip on the H&S I will have to check it out.
RichConley
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No, it pulls less than the other two.
The point is, none of these skimmers pull anywhere near the air theyre capable of, and all of them are capable of totally maxing out the bodies theyre attached to, so buy the biggest, cheapest bodied skimmer you can, then tweak the pump.
The ASM G3 pulls about 15 scfh, the NW150 pulls about 12 scfh, and the equivalent ER pulls about 20. These bodies can take about 30, and it takes about 15 minutes and $2 to get all of these pumps to pull more than 30. I just dont see any reason to pay more, when theyre all capable of basically the same thing.
the NW150 runs $140. Its got a 6" body. If you really want, spend the $189 and get the NW200 with its 8" body. I've got a meshwheel on mine, and it pulls 50+ scfh.
I keep wondering that if what you are saying is true (and I have no reason to believe its not)...Why don't skimmer manufactures just make the changes themselves and sell a much better product? I lose faith in these skimmers when I read over and over that they are not functioning to their potential...they should be modified...its cheap...etc. If a manufacturer can double the performance of its product for $2.00, they should do it.
Jim_S
Timo Boll
Absolutely correct in cases like this.
Manufactures have factories that are tooled to build their current models of skimmers. Any changes require a re-tooling effort, that is obvioulsy (in most cases) expensive, and timely.
All in good time I guess.... but I'm still not sold on the mesh. They defintely produce great numbers, but almost too good to be true. I'm part of the population that will wait for them to become the norm before I am comfortable with them (or wait until royal exclusive switches over, IMO they are the leaders in high quality equipment). I guess its my conservative nature
.......Cheers,
Jim
Just get the biggest that you can afford that will fit. I have recirc ASM sitting right next to an recirc ER, both with 8 inch bodies and some tweaking, and they both skim the same.
I have not seen more air produce more results. It looks good on paper, but I am not sold that double your air double performance. It seems to help some though.
I need to get an octopus and try it out. I have comment on these.
I have not seen more air produce more results. It looks good on paper, but I am not sold that double your air double performance. It seems to help some though.
I need to get an octopus and try it out. I have comment on these.
Fishbulb2
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Not only that but i wonder about patents. the wife is a patent lawyer so it's hard for me not to. If the original makers of meshwheel skimmers knew what they were doing, they would have patented it very well and no other manufacturer could use it regardless of whether or not they thought it was a good idea. I get the suspicion though that these companies rarely patent (or have decent patents) on their equipment.
FB
Oh but if you believe companies would automatically optimize their skimmers for $2 just for their customers, I think that is wrong. The gatevalve mod is the perfect example. I hate riser tubes and gatevalve mods in large number would cost the manufactures very little. Yet most skimmers still come with those dreadful riser tubes probably to save pennies.
