Euroreef CS12-2 under a 180/210/220???

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Has anyone done this? If so I want to see how you configured it. I'm planning out a peninsula build and I'm not sure I can make it work.
I currently have it in a remote sump but I'm moving and want to have a fully enclosed setup in the next house.
 
I had one under a 260g however I made the stand tall enough to fit it under there.

I just set it in my sump...... how tall is your stand?

While you are redoing it consider turning it into a RC skimmer
 
Havent built one yet. I'm mostly concerned about the width since the sedra pumps stick off the sides. Mine has been modded too....
It looks like this. Note the extra pump on the left.

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Your RC mod is upside down. The pump should pull fresh water from the bottom and pump it in the middle. That way it will produce more bubbles. Right now it is pulling in foam and just adding a little bit of air. Just wanted to throw that out there....

Also, can you clarify what your asking? It can fit if there Is room. But what are your concerns?
 
i have a stock 12-2 and have had trouble getting it to produce thick foam regularly. any suggestions from those that have one?
 
Your RC mod is upside down. The pump should pull fresh water from the bottom and pump it in the middle. That way it will produce more bubbles. Right now it is pulling in foam and just adding a little bit of air. Just wanted to throw that out there....
I bought it used. It came like that and was permanently glued. I took the mod off. So it is pretty much in it's original configuration. I can redo the mod or not.

Also, can you clarify what your asking? It can fit if there Is room. But what are your concerns?
So if nothing is in the way it should fit in a 23" wide space? Got pics of yours? That's what I'm looking for.
It just seems like it will be too wide to fit under there and I wanted to see if others had done it to determine whether it was in fact possible.
 
i have a stock 12-2 and have had trouble getting it to produce thick foam regularly. any suggestions from those that have one?

Setup configuration would be useful to know. I have mine elevated out of the water so that it will draw air better. If the air has do go down a hose into the water it will have more back pressure and will not inject as much air. I have had no problem producing decent foam. Even with a lightly stocked tank.
 
I bought it used. It came like that and was permanently glued. I took the mod off. So it is pretty much in it's original configuration. I can redo the mod or not.

the mod is fine, just undo the unions, and flip the pump 180deg. that way the part with the air line is on the bottom, and the pump is on the top. (it will scream with foam.)

i am guessing there is still 2 sedra pumps plumbed back into the skimmer if it is fully recirculated. (if you will post more pictures of your skimmer, then we can tell)

as for the tank. the only thing that you have to look out for is the size of the sump, and the height and depth of the stand. as long as your sump will house a 30+in tall skimmer, then no problem!!
as long as the depth of the sump will hold the skimmer with pump, then no problem. i made my sump out of a 40 breeder tank. i then put baffles to separate the skimmer section from the return section. (i run a separate tank with the refugium. this allows me to pull either of the tanks just in case. mainly because my stand is 1/2 in the wall and 1/2 out. and coming out the front with a huge sump/tank is impossible with my stand)

does this help?
 
Yeah. It does help. I've come to the realization that I put that darn skimmer in a remote sump for a reason and that I think it's best that I not try to fix what isn't broken. Hahaha.

That picture is old. I took the extra pump off because it froze up out after getting some feather duster shells lodged in it. It didn't appear to affect the skimming ability so I just left it off.
 
it should fit in a 24in space but you should really just measure it to be sure. Since ours were both modded not by ER I think our dimensions could be different.

I unfortunantly do not have pics of my skimmer running & it's been sitting in my garage for about 2 years now. I didn't maintain/clean the pumps like I was suppose to thus they both failed on me. So I am going to go with a larger skimmer since I am also upgrading tanks.

roni- how big is your tank? when mine was stock it pulled out quite a bit of stuff on a 260g FO. The air intakes do get loaded up with salt so put some hot water down there to clean it out, at least that's what I have read people do with their skimmers to keep the intake clean.
 
so it turns out i have the stock 12-1, not 12-2. i was wondering why mine looked different :) any ideas on how to improve performance? i get decent skimmate but not something to write home about. i have it elevated to where it's in about 4-5" of water and have the gate valve almost completely open. the water level is just before the change in caliber of the riser tube.
 
the 12-2 should be 30" tall.......
the 12-1 is around 24" tall.
so if you have 24" of room, you better keep that external sump!!!!!!!!!!!


as for performance, if you will google euro reef 12-2 then click on images, if you look you will find a 12-2 that is in a 6in acrylic square. he has a post that shows how to clean the skimmer. he uses acid, not vinegar. it works the same, but 100x faster.
when you clean your skimmer, i would unhook the air lines and dunk them in the acid. that way it pulls acid through the venture and cleans out any calcium and salt build up.
i hope that helps....
 
roni - did you try putting it deeper in the water? The pumps are working harder to push water in there, some skimmers like 6-9in of water, you might have it up to high.

How big is your tank?

drilling holes & altering the plumbing to make the pumps work in RC will help. Also depending on the pumps (old dolphin's or Gen-x) you could upgrade the pump. Probably a single Laguna 1500 would do the trick.
 
roni - did you try putting it deeper in the water? The pumps are working harder to push water in there, some skimmers like 6-9in of water, you might have it up to high.

How big is your tank?

drilling holes & altering the plumbing to make the pumps work in RC will help. Also depending on the pumps (old dolphin's or Gen-x) you could upgrade the pump. Probably a single Laguna 1500 would do the trick.

i originally had it deeper and it is working better once i elevated it. the pumps are sedra 5000 needlewheels.

i'm running it on a 180. i'm getting decent output but not what i would expect for the size tank and the amount i feed.
 
the 12-2 is rated for 400+ so with it on a 180 then it might not produce like people think. plus with it running 2 sedra 5k's then there is no telling
 
I had my 12-2/rc-500 on a 260g FO tank with a heavy bioload & I would fill the cup up with coffe looking stuff in 2-3 days usually.

Like mentioned above you might not have enough load in there to produce the nasty stuff, or at least a lot of stuff.

You could always recirc 1 of the pumps to increase dwell time
 
how do you recirc the pump? i'm a little leery of drilling the skimmer body.

well, you would have to drill the skimmer body for sure....

you just take the venture off your skimmer, and take it to HD or Lowes. then you get a 45 and a 90 that will fit over the venture. and a piece of PVC to go with it.

you glue the 45 to the venture and the 90 to the 45. then you stick a piece of pipe through the hole you will drill and your done. (you need to buy a "uni seal" that will fit the pipe size and drill the right hole for the uni-seal.

others may give you better ways, but thats the jist of it.
 
yea, that's pretty much it..... you just need to plumb the intake on the pump as well as out-take to push & pull water from the skimmer body. The intake is on the bottom (OEM hole or you can drill new holes) & the hole that would need to be drilled would be above that. After you get the parts glued together you can determine where you need to drill.

You can do this with all pumps or just one. If one you will half the flow of fresh/dirty water into the tank so dwell time will go up. If you do this to both pumps then you need to get another feed pump or plumb it from the tanks drain (must eliminate bubbles in the water) which is the best but not always the easiest.

Totally understand about not wanting to drill........

Check out Reef Dynamic's website, you can see pics there of their RC skimmers in RC mode, I think the RC-350 is the biggest skimmer they have pics of now
 
thanks guys. will put this in the list of projects to do :) how much improvement in performance are you seeing with the recirc?
 
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