EVERYTHING in tank calified

Re: Re: EVERYTHING in tank calified

Re: Re: EVERYTHING in tank calified

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13602107#post13602107 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mhaith
Get another test done on your water. You are adding huge amounts to your 55g. That is about two times as much as I add to my heavily loaded SPS 210g. Based on what you say you have for livestock, I believe Randy's regimine suggests you should be adding about 1ml/gal at the most
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I agree. An overdose would seem the likely obvious reason for calcification of everything in this case.
Water changes should (probably) be performed ASAP to bring down Ca/alk to acceptable levels.
 
dont be mad, i know what work, and it works for me.. if it doesnt work for you that alright... but going around and around isnt going to help the thread starter,, since you have all the answers why dont you help him?
 
g stone, you too are not helping the "thread starter" with your comments... please give useful info or move on.
 
OP, I agree with what others have said. It appears that there is an overdosage here. Test and do water changes accordinly, re-test and then come up with a plan that will keep your levels stable.

Regards,
Matt
 
As Gary indicated that is your opinion and it may work. As for me on small tanks why would you not use two part? I use it on my 3g pico and it is great, and easy to dial in. Of course, again there are many ways to do the same things; as is apparent by this thread.
 
well he has calcified everything.. by way over using the two part, i think this could have been avoided.. you have a 3 gal that i doubt evaps much water, so for you kalk wouldnt work.. each set up is different, i guess you guys cant come to grips that what i'm doing is working for me and it might work for this guy.. i'll leave this thread alone.. see yea
 
Magnesium allows calcium and carbonate to supersaturate seawater (400ppm, 10 dkH). Without sufficient magnesium, ~3x Calcium concentration, your added calcium and carbonate will just continue to precipitate onto every surface.
Check out magnesium
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13602509#post13602509 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by newclean
Magnesium allows calcium and carbonate to supersaturate seawater (400ppm, 10 dkH). Without sufficient magnesium, ~3x Calcium concentration, your added calcium and carbonate will just continue to precipitate onto every surface.
Check out magnesium
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You may be right. I made the assumption he was doing at least some water changes which would have kept his MAG somewhat in the ballpark...
 
Shouse94:

What salt mix are you using? If it is Instant Ocean, it is quit low in magnesium, and that may be part of your problem.

If it is IO, even without measuring you might look to boost the magnesium by at least 200-250 ppm. With a kit you can determine if you need to boost it even more.


This calculator shows how much of the magnesium part of the two/three part that will take:

Reef chemicals calculator
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chem_calc3.html
 
Hey guys,
I can't thank you enough for all the responses.
I DO 20% water changes every 2 weeks. Sometimes it's every 3 weeks. I had been using Tropic Marin Reef Pro for a couple years now. I JUST bought Instant OCean and will be using that for a little while.

I have a mixed reef, so mushrooms, zoos. I have all different types of montipora, cap, digita, different colors, etc. Basically is the extent of my SPS. And i have quite a bit of montipora, but as states before, this is not a STACKED SPS tank so I agree, it's a lot of additives for my tank size.

I do not have a Magnesium Test kit due to the cost yet but I had been trying to follow the directions by Randy by how much to add. Of course it's not exact though.

I just did a big water change last night with IO salt so I will get some new tests up today but I have been hovering around these stats for many months now. It does seem to fluctuate so that may contribute to this mess:

Temp: 80-82 (on a controlled chiller)
Salinity: 1.025-6
dkh: 9-11
PH: 8-8.2
Phos: 0 (obviously may not be accurate)
CAL:390-440

I don't test ammonia, nitrates,nitrites as i do not have any reliable test kits.

I will definitely start doing heavy frequent water changes, I figured that was a good first step. My problem is that I originally started dosing this high because it was the only way to get my parameters to what I stated above. Does this sound unusual?

I think I forgot to mention this earlier. I got new T5 bulbs and things went down further when I tried to acclimate the new bulbs. At this point it's hard to tell if they are bleaching or dying from water quality. I'm going to start pulling out dirty rock when I get a chance. Probably start cooking some of it again.

SO I guess my main question is, why do i have to add so much to keep the above parameters??????? what should i try differently?
 
Just as a reference point and comparison...

I have a 45 gal mixed reef (lots of frags, including LPS & SPS, not mature colonies).

I dose 2-part daily at 10ml.

I am pretty faithful with water changes of 5 - 6 gallons weekly.

I don't have any fancy equipment for additives to the tank so water changes with good salt are important for my system. I use Red Sea salt.

My tank parameters are staying pretty consistent so far.

Calc - 420
Alk - 6.5 dKH
Magnesium - 1450


Sure hope you can find the source of the problem. Sounds like you've been given some good insights as to what it might be on this thread.
 
Why, is it. So hard for people. To write, complete sentences. and not sound like a little kid, with their panties in a bunch. It makes it. very hard to read, and gives me a headache when. stuff is typed like that.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13604921#post13604921 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ZoaFan08
Why, is it. So hard for people. To write, complete sentences. and not sound like a little kid, with their panties in a bunch. It makes it. very hard to read, and gives me a headache when. stuff is typed like that.
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Maybe they are little kids? It's part of the internet lingo, that once you write on the internet grammar is no longer important.

Not saying we don't all make mistakes, but I agree, complete sentences would be nice.

Not that this has anything to do with the thread. I'm glad to see this thread though, as I was about to start dosing my tank. Hopefully this problem will soon be fixed.
 
Sorry but I have been typing on the internet for 13 years and my grammar is far from being a quarter as bad as some people. Well whatever floats their boat, it just makes it hard to read and actually understand what is trying to be said.

As far as the thread I am really interested because I have a 55g and was looking into dosing.
 
ZoaFan08, take your bull$hitt elsewhere. I don't have time for it and I'm sure no one else appreciates it. I don't care how long you've been typing on the internet or what gets underneath your skin on my thread. You got beef? go start your own thread, don't hijack mine.
 
beach magnolia - are you using randy's 2 part? I'd think the amount wouldn't be comparable if you're using a different solution.
 
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