shane 1111
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bronco7777 i want with the gobies because i don't like what is happening with cleaner wrasses. when we remove them the local fish suffer
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achillesheel
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why did you get rid of him? do they keep their color with and without a female?
achillesheel
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picture didnt come up
zemuron114
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H. Tanaka - you have a PM 
bronco7777
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shane1111,
I support you 100% on that. If you can do the job with gobies, more power to you. I've stated here before that I don't advocate purchasing cleaner wrasses. In my case, the only reason I purchased a cleaner was due to the fact that my wrasses never would sit still for a shrimp or a gobie. I stumbled across one that was housed incorrectly in a Petco (as is usually the case with most of their saltwater fish) and was sure to die. Stomach was caved in and not very active. I purchased him only to take a chance on saving him. It's worked perfectly. He's been with me almost 3 years now and he's as fat.
This is not the first time I've seen this occur.
I think cleaners benefit from an all wrasse system. Also I think the tank must be incredibly mature.
Unfortunately I don't think major distributors are going to stop harvesting cleaners. In my opinion, for every 10 concientious saltwater hobbyists that boycott purchasing cleaners there are subsequently 50 hobbyists that will purchase them because, 1/ they don't care happens when they are removed from their enviroments or 2/ you have kids and uninformed new hobbyists that all the sudden want to take up saltwater aquariums because they just saw Finding Nemo.
Again, I'm not advocating the purchase of these fish. But if I can save one every so often I will. I think it is also to the benefit of my collection if I house them correctly.
I support you 100% on that. If you can do the job with gobies, more power to you. I've stated here before that I don't advocate purchasing cleaner wrasses. In my case, the only reason I purchased a cleaner was due to the fact that my wrasses never would sit still for a shrimp or a gobie. I stumbled across one that was housed incorrectly in a Petco (as is usually the case with most of their saltwater fish) and was sure to die. Stomach was caved in and not very active. I purchased him only to take a chance on saving him. It's worked perfectly. He's been with me almost 3 years now and he's as fat.
This is not the first time I've seen this occur.
I think cleaners benefit from an all wrasse system. Also I think the tank must be incredibly mature.
Unfortunately I don't think major distributors are going to stop harvesting cleaners. In my opinion, for every 10 concientious saltwater hobbyists that boycott purchasing cleaners there are subsequently 50 hobbyists that will purchase them because, 1/ they don't care happens when they are removed from their enviroments or 2/ you have kids and uninformed new hobbyists that all the sudden want to take up saltwater aquariums because they just saw Finding Nemo.
Again, I'm not advocating the purchase of these fish. But if I can save one every so often I will. I think it is also to the benefit of my collection if I house them correctly.
bronco7777
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Chicago,
Try WetWebMedia.com
They have an extensive line of pictures for each family of fish
Try WetWebMedia.com
They have an extensive line of pictures for each family of fish
>crlmn11
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>Registered: Oct 2001
>Tonga flame
>Beautiful wrasses guys.
> The third is an undescribed species that we were lucky enough >to get a picture of in Fiji when the entire harem was present. If >anyone knows what it is please let me know. Sorry if the photos >are messed up, this is the first time I have tried to include >pictures
Hi crlmn11,
The third picture shows a harem of Cirrhilabrus marjorie (endemic to Fiji). One male can be seen in the background (a small fish). Males and large females have a yellow tail like them.
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>Registered: Oct 2001
>Tonga flame
>Beautiful wrasses guys.
> The third is an undescribed species that we were lucky enough >to get a picture of in Fiji when the entire harem was present. If >anyone knows what it is please let me know. Sorry if the photos >are messed up, this is the first time I have tried to include >pictures
Hi crlmn11,
The third picture shows a harem of Cirrhilabrus marjorie (endemic to Fiji). One male can be seen in the background (a small fish). Males and large females have a yellow tail like them.
marcel leroux
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Mr. Tanaka, welcome.
Thank you very much Mr. Tanaka, I appreciate your finally letting me know what those beautiful wrasses were from Fiji. Are you doing anything different in terms of husbandry than what we are doing? I am currently housing 20 different fairies in a 1200 gallon tank along with some anthias and a few other relatively peaceful fish. Thee are lots of places to hide and overall they seem to do very well in that they have kept their color and show no signs of disease. The only thing that has been frustrating to me is that over the past 6 months I have lost 6 of them of different species without ever seeing a mark on them or any other sign of distress. It is quite perplexing.
Yes, I also experienced that many fairies and flashers died without any sign, just a sudden death in the tank, and others were lively.
Oh, what a huge tank you have ! Is it a public aquarium ? I know that a Cirrhilabrus from Fiji (shown as Tonga Flame Wrasse in your pic). Many photos of it were sent to me by Bruce Carlson and marj Awai that have been taken in a large aquarium. C. marjorie was named after Marjorie Awai. It is apparently an undescribed species that once was regarded as C. bathyphilus, but this unnamed fish has a prominent dorsal spine (in large males). The species ranges Fiji and Tonga (both deep) as far as I know, and we (I and my friend in Australia) are now preparing a paper to name it.
Call me Hiroyuki, not add 'Mr' next time.
Oh, what a huge tank you have ! Is it a public aquarium ? I know that a Cirrhilabrus from Fiji (shown as Tonga Flame Wrasse in your pic). Many photos of it were sent to me by Bruce Carlson and marj Awai that have been taken in a large aquarium. C. marjorie was named after Marjorie Awai. It is apparently an undescribed species that once was regarded as C. bathyphilus, but this unnamed fish has a prominent dorsal spine (in large males). The species ranges Fiji and Tonga (both deep) as far as I know, and we (I and my friend in Australia) are now preparing a paper to name it.
Call me Hiroyuki, not add 'Mr' next time.
Thanks Hiroyuki. We photographed that harem of majorie wrasses in about 25 feet of water in a relatively shallow reef in Fiji. Those were the only fairy wrasses we saw over two weeks of diving. The 1200 is my own tank. It was a 500 for 11 years and then I upped it in size as my addiction for sps corals and fairy wrasses forced me to get a bigger tank. It is only a year old so it has not filled in yet, but it is coming along. If you PM me I will be happy to send you some pictures. I do not usually put shots on the net as they end up on other people's sites. I am currently feedign mysis shrimp and other small meaty foods. Have you found any other foods that are beneficial to the long term health of the fish? Thanks again for your help.
>crlmn11 ?GIf you PM me I will be happy to send you some
>pictures.
Thank you very much and yes, I will post you today.
>I do not usually put shots on the net as they end up on other >people's sites.
I agree with you; mine also are used in unfamiliar shops' sites without notice. Since then I attached my name on each photo when I show in webs.
>I am currently feedign mysis shrimp and other small meaty >foods. Have you found any other foods that are beneficial to the >long term health of the fish? Thanks again for your help.
Yes, I know some item sold in Japan and wait for a while, and I am sure to inform here. There are some others that are said to make coloration of fish more vivid but I do not believe it. Finally well-balanced foods are the most suitable also for live fishes.
>marcel leroux
>Registered: May 2005
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>Id please.... Sorry about the bad pics, picked this guy up from LFS, they did not know what it is and i tried some research myself.
This is so-called the Bluestripe Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus temminckii, variant); Kuiter, 2002 (shows as Blue-stripe Flasher) states that it is a distinct one from western Pacific, but most ichthyologists regard it as one of temminckii- variations. When adult males display they exhibit two neon blue stripes on side.
This form cn be seen in southern Japan to Indonesia and Malaysia. Another form comes from Western Australia. Also 'Flasher' should be adapted only to Paracheilinus; his naming would cause confusion.
>pictures.
Thank you very much and yes, I will post you today.
>I do not usually put shots on the net as they end up on other >people's sites.
I agree with you; mine also are used in unfamiliar shops' sites without notice. Since then I attached my name on each photo when I show in webs.
>I am currently feedign mysis shrimp and other small meaty >foods. Have you found any other foods that are beneficial to the >long term health of the fish? Thanks again for your help.
Yes, I know some item sold in Japan and wait for a while, and I am sure to inform here. There are some others that are said to make coloration of fish more vivid but I do not believe it. Finally well-balanced foods are the most suitable also for live fishes.
>marcel leroux
>Registered: May 2005
>Posts: 144
>Id please.... Sorry about the bad pics, picked this guy up from LFS, they did not know what it is and i tried some research myself.
This is so-called the Bluestripe Fairy Wrasse (Cirrhilabrus temminckii, variant); Kuiter, 2002 (shows as Blue-stripe Flasher) states that it is a distinct one from western Pacific, but most ichthyologists regard it as one of temminckii- variations. When adult males display they exhibit two neon blue stripes on side.
This form cn be seen in southern Japan to Indonesia and Malaysia. Another form comes from Western Australia. Also 'Flasher' should be adapted only to Paracheilinus; his naming would cause confusion.
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