Fast spreading ich?!
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ashlynnmurlo
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What should I do if it somehow does not infect all of my fish? My blue green chromosome still seems to be extremely normal and the only one eating in the tank. Should I put him into a qt once I have it set up and keep him in there for the 72 days if he lives?
There are some subtleties. If a chromis is involved, it could be uronema marinum rather than brook as they present in somewhat a familiar way physically. The fallow period for brook is 6 weeks, the fallow period for ich is 72 days. However, since uronema is not an obligate fish hosted parasite, there is no fallow period.
ashlynnmurlo
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The chromis is the only one that doesn't seem infected yet though
The tank has one or more parasites. A fish may have temporary immunity and not show physical symptoms, but it will still carry the parasite.
Perth_reefer
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People can run healthy tanks for years that have been subjected to ich in the past, if a stressor is added then ich can appear. So while stress does not cause ich, it is a major contributor towards outbreaks.
We will have to agree to disagree. Either the parasite is present or it is not. If it is present, it may or may not have physical symptoms.
Perth_reefer
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Well we're agreeing kind of...so if it is present and doesn't have physical symptoms then what stage of the ich cycle is the parasite in?
ashlynnmurlo
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Ok, so do I just have to wait until it eventually effects him and he dies pretty much?
Deinonych
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Fish can be infected at a subclinical level. That is, the parasite is carrying out its life cycle on the fish host without visible symptoms.
ashlynnmurlo
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Is it safe to assume then, since the chromis has no visible symptoms, that he is a host for the parasite now?
And if so, this is getting a bit too morbid for me now with all of these deaths, but should I get rid of him somehow then in order to let the bacteria/parasite die out in the tank for the 72 days?
Spar
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you can setup another small tank for him to treat him separate while keeping your DT fallow for the 72 days. otherwise, find him a home and start fresh after the fallow period is over with properly treated fish (by you).
if a fish has been exposed, even for a short period of time, to a tank known to have Ich present, then yes it is best assumed he has Ich on him somewhere.
ashlynnmurlo
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Okay so I will set up another tank for him to stay in and be treated during the fallow period. I am not sure though if it was ich, brooklynella, or velvet that has killed all of my fish besides him. How should I go about treating him? Is there a way I could find out which parasites are in my tank?
Perth_reefer
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I'm just wondering why when I did my TTM the 16 fish I put back into my DT aren't displaying symptoms but the hippo tang i left in quarantine is? There's only two explinations, I either did the TTM wrong or ich somehow lived through the correct TTM.
If I did it wrong then it's safe to say all fish are affected with ich, I understand that a fish can be affected at a subclinical level but what is the chance of 16 fish being affected at a subclinical level at the same time? Why doesn't ich follow it's normal pattern on at least 1 of those fish?
ericarenee
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i would always QT A Hippo tang Separate and longer.No Conciseness that the ttm did not work the first time on the Hippo.They are ich magnets.....
Gorgeous fish but i would not Risk one in my Tank without months of Healthy QT...
Some fish can Fight off (live thru more like) ich better then others. This is why some tanks can survive Somewhat Healthy with only smaller outbreaks.
I always thought Like you about this that its in every tank... I promise you There is NO Ich Parasite in my System of almost 500 gallons of water... MY QT System is in a different room and has its own everything.. Nothing is ever used between the two..... Been there done that with loosing big MONEY To this EVIL PARASITE...
Sorry for getting off subject in your thread OP.. Those above know what they are saying... Marine life is to precious and Delicate to take a chance... :deadhorse:
ashlynnmurlo
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It's ok. I just have a few more questions about this topic anyways. If someone could answer my above questions it would be greatly appreciated. Also, during the 72 days, I can keep my starfish corals and other invertebrates right? Do I continue with upkeep and water changes during the time period also? And advice on this will be greatly appreciated!
Oh lastly, we cannot find our three stripe damsel that died.. Should I take out all of the rock and find it or let the tank take its course?
Oh lastly, we cannot find our three stripe damsel that died.. Should I take out all of the rock and find it or let the tank take its course?
Perth_reefer
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I agree with everything you say here. But there is still the question in my mind as to whether the TTM didn't work because I did something wrong, if this is the case why does my DT not have signs of ich 4 weeks after reintroducing fish? If I did TTM right then why does the Hippo tang have ich in quarantine?
I offered to go through an analysis with you to determine the answer to that question and you turned that offer down. So that question will remain unanswered.
ashlynnmurlo
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Kenpau, could you please move this to your own thread? I am trying to set up my qt for my chromis and none of my questions about where to go from here have been answered.
Deinonych
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Yes, you can keep your inverts in the fallow tank as they do not act as a host for the parasite. As far as the damsel, you just need to confirm that it is in fact dead. If it is still alive, it will act as a host for the parasite and allow it to continue to reproduce.
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