Ok I apparently have a very bad strain of vibrio in my 29 gallon erectus tank.... I have got some "marine clean" from DRS. Foster And Smith, it is said to be a bacteria that prevents against deseases such as Vibrio... Will it cure my horses? I just received it today, and added the recomeneded dossage.... HOPE it helps
Fighting back against Vibrio
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pledosophy
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That will not cure your horses. If it is safe to use in your system it will not be effective against vibrio IMHO. There are several different strains of vibrio that affect seahorses, there is no way that one product could affect all of them without completely destroying your biologcal filtration, causing your tank to crash.
I missed the post about your horses having a vibrio outbreak. Do you have Neo3.
DO you need help?
Totally down to help you out if you need it just let me know.
Where are you in the treatment?
I missed the post about your horses having a vibrio outbreak. Do you have Neo3.
DO you need help?
Totally down to help you out if you need it just let me know.
Where are you in the treatment?
Ok So I just found signs of it a few days ago, I have had a record of it in the past with my tank.... The horses show no signs of weakness.... yet.... but some have small white spoloteches of discolored skin near the crown area.... I think this is Vibrio.... and the Marine Max is not a chemical.... its a bunch of different strains of bacteria that are supposed to consume fungus and parasites....
pledosophy
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7542801#post7542801 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lumpus
Yeah...you'll be looking for something called 'diamox', which is a triple sulfa/neomycin3 mix. It is, apparently, the vibrio killer of choice
Neo3 is also the new drug that is a combination of triple sulfa and neomycin. I think you just got confused.
Whatnot, I'd lower the tank temp down to about 69F. Depending on what brand of vibrance your feeding means alot. The reason that seahorse.com is recommending vibrance (besides that it is one of there products) is that Vibrance II includes beta glucan which is an immunostimulant.
A product that eats parasites and fungus is not going to have any affect on a bacteria, like vibrio. I am familiar with the new oncoming trend of treating bacteria's with other bacteria's that will out compete, but IMO your best choice of action here is going to be the Neo3.
Just out of curiosity are your seahorses from Oceanrider? When did you buy them? Could you ask on that site how your seahorses obtained vibrio when they were 100% pathogen free gaurenteed? It might raise some eyebrows, but I'd be very curious as to there anwser. OR has stated on several occasions that there high health certificate includes the random picking and necropsy's of speciments to insure there are no cases of pathogens, would love to know if vibrio is considered an acceptable pathogen in these necropy's. I would suspect it is since so many seahorses in the wild are carriers, and many lifeofrm contain bacteria i there digfestive track, but would love an anwser from them. Also what antibiotics are they suggesting?
pledosophy
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Yes Greenie you were right as usual. I just like to post what you already posted so I can be right once in awhile too. Maybe this way people will think I no somthin
Samala
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I believe Whatnot has lost horses previously, and posted previously in this forum, to Vibrio. Torry, the posts in this thread - while a little bit tough love - a full of great info on Vibrio as a disease. Whatnot's Vibrio thread.
So, some question for ya Whatnot:
How many horses are in the tank currently? Still just the lone female? Are you trying to clear her of the infection so you can add future tankmates?
Or, did you add more horses? If so can you tell us how long they have been in the system? And are they in there with the remaining female from before?
All of this info should help us come up with a game plan and let us know what your goals are, either to a) clear your system of this problem bacteria or b) clear new seahorses of the infection before they succumb to it or c) treat your female for a recurrence of the infection which is starting to show as patchy skin.
>Sarah
So, some question for ya Whatnot:
How many horses are in the tank currently? Still just the lone female? Are you trying to clear her of the infection so you can add future tankmates?
Or, did you add more horses? If so can you tell us how long they have been in the system? And are they in there with the remaining female from before?
All of this info should help us come up with a game plan and let us know what your goals are, either to a) clear your system of this problem bacteria or b) clear new seahorses of the infection before they succumb to it or c) treat your female for a recurrence of the infection which is starting to show as patchy skin.
>Sarah
greenighs
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Sarah, don't bother. It happens all the time on the other boards, too. Somebody shows up and says, help me, it's urgent! Everybody pitches in and gives them advice, searches out links, gives them contact info, points them to relevant threads ... then does the Crisis Person ever respond? 1 out of 50 times. Does the Crisis Person follow the advice? Maybe 1 out of 200 times. Do we ever hear back from Crisis Person? Sure we do, next time they have a crisis ...
Then if the folks that offer a lot of their time ever take too long to respond or don't spoonfeed the information, Crisis Person gets bent out of shape.
Oh well, that's how these boards work, I guess. I hope Whatnot's horse is okay, but we may not find out for a while if ever.
Then if the folks that offer a lot of their time ever take too long to respond or don't spoonfeed the information, Crisis Person gets bent out of shape.
Oh well, that's how these boards work, I guess. I hope Whatnot's horse is okay, but we may not find out for a while if ever.
pledosophy
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I think he is a member of a different site as well.
TorryRx
New member
Thank you, Samala! I had actually followed that thread before, but somehow missed the description of the actual symptoms of Vibrio in it. Frow what I understand, it shows itself on the skin of the horses and also carries the other typical sick seahorse symptoms...e.g., sluggishness, loss of appetite, etc. I'll be printing it out for future reference, especially Pledosophy's post.
I can only imagine how irritating it is to try to help someone out who has no intentions of using information that may involve something inconvenient for them (like water changes and QT tanks). But FWIW, I've been perusing this board for almost a year to gather information for my soon-to-be-seahorse tank. And I've taken a LOT of good advice from all of you, especially the regulars. So, for every irresponsible jerk that only takes the advice they want to hear, there are plenty of us who are really benefiting from all of this...
So, I just want to make sure I say thank you, since not many people seem to take the time to do that anymore.
Torry
I can only imagine how irritating it is to try to help someone out who has no intentions of using information that may involve something inconvenient for them (like water changes and QT tanks). But FWIW, I've been perusing this board for almost a year to gather information for my soon-to-be-seahorse tank. And I've taken a LOT of good advice from all of you, especially the regulars. So, for every irresponsible jerk that only takes the advice they want to hear, there are plenty of us who are really benefiting from all of this...
So, I just want to make sure I say thank you, since not many people seem to take the time to do that anymore.
Torry
Ok I did not get the four other horses, but I got 2 more... So I have 3. The female had stopped eating before I added the two new ones in, but after the new addition she perked up and started feeding as normal. My 3 horses are all female, and they Have been very active. Their behavior has not changed a bit with the onlslought of vibrio so far.... I think the main issue has been the tank temperature. My thermometer as I found out was not working properly, and was giving me an abnormaly low reading. I got a new one, and the real tank temperature was closer to 80 degrees!!! NOT GOOD i know since vibrio becomes deadly at high temperatures. I have the temperature fairly stable now at arround 72 degrees with frozen water bottles I am going to get a chiller As soon as i can convince my mom to let me take money out of my bank account XD
