Finally an easy solution to bryopsis!
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Nuuze
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Thanks Paul. I'm proud and relieved the same time of the accomplishment. Bryopsis almost drove me to quit the hobby. I was spending hundreds on cleanup crews, crabs, snails, slugs, hares, algea eating fish of all types. I was about 2/3 from finishing up on cleaning what was left of the hair algea when you were over Saturday.
jacob30
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Re: Do I have bryopsis or something else? Pics included
Re: Do I have bryopsis or something else? Pics included
Nathan,
Did you ever ID this algae? I have something similar and am at a loss as to what is the best technique for ridding it. I did just upgrade my skimmer, ozonator and fluidized reactor so it is wait and see right now. My next coarse of action is the Tech M.
Thanks
=13053092#post13053092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lukinrats [/i]
I posted this in my tank thread, but I don't guess many people are really interested in replying to that thread... it is here , but I wanted to put my pictures in this thread to see if I can get an opinion
Here are the pictures... Tell me whether you guys think it is Bryopsis, and if it is, should I use the Elevated Magnesium treatment?
The worst spot of it is in that first picture, on a piece of Marshall's Island rock I have... It is the only one in there, and has never been able to grow any coralline, so that is where NA usually starts
Thanks,
Nathan
It scrubs off pretty easily with a toothbrush, but even then there will still be some left... Also, if you scrub it down, it will come back... The only strange thing to me is that it will only grow to the lengths you see (so far)... Now, I call it strange, because I have never dealt with it... It may actually be typical
That's why I am hoping you guys can give some clues [/QUOTE]
Re: Do I have bryopsis or something else? Pics included
Nathan,
Did you ever ID this algae? I have something similar and am at a loss as to what is the best technique for ridding it. I did just upgrade my skimmer, ozonator and fluidized reactor so it is wait and see right now. My next coarse of action is the Tech M.
Thanks
=13053092#post13053092 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lukinrats [/i]
I posted this in my tank thread, but I don't guess many people are really interested in replying to that thread... it is here , but I wanted to put my pictures in this thread to see if I can get an opinion
Here are the pictures... Tell me whether you guys think it is Bryopsis, and if it is, should I use the Elevated Magnesium treatment?
The worst spot of it is in that first picture, on a piece of Marshall's Island rock I have... It is the only one in there, and has never been able to grow any coralline, so that is where NA usually starts
Thanks,
Nathan
It scrubs off pretty easily with a toothbrush, but even then there will still be some left... Also, if you scrub it down, it will come back... The only strange thing to me is that it will only grow to the lengths you see (so far)... Now, I call it strange, because I have never dealt with it... It may actually be typical
That's why I am hoping you guys can give some clues [/QUOTE]
montrealreef
Member
I'm not totally sure about the ID either. It kind of looks like debrasia (?spelling) It's hard to tell from the pictures + there are many different species of bryopsis that have different forms.
The most typical description is very dark green with feather like patterns (but there are many others)
I would try tech M and see what happens.
good luck!
The most typical description is very dark green with feather like patterns (but there are many others)
I would try tech M and see what happens.
good luck!
ok couple of questions.
my MG runs really low naturally and i have a 120 tank.
1. Would you recomend raising the mh to about 1500-1600 with my 2 part solutions and then starting tech m?
2. once treatment starts is it safe to scrub the rock while its in the tank and do aggresive skimming? because tearing down tank to scrub rock will be near inmpoossible.
3. so what is the ppm that seems to be the death zone for this stuff? 2000+
I tried this before it worked abit but i also used epsom salt along with techm this time i want to do it right .
thanks
my MG runs really low naturally and i have a 120 tank.
1. Would you recomend raising the mh to about 1500-1600 with my 2 part solutions and then starting tech m?
2. once treatment starts is it safe to scrub the rock while its in the tank and do aggresive skimming? because tearing down tank to scrub rock will be near inmpoossible.
3. so what is the ppm that seems to be the death zone for this stuff? 2000+
I tried this before it worked abit but i also used epsom salt along with techm this time i want to do it right .
thanks
you know what i noticed not only is there some in my main tank, but you guys should look in your overflows!!!! OMG i was pulling out fists full of this crap from my built in overflow chambers.
My mg is currently at 1440 im gonna dose one more time with 2 part to get into the 1500's and then start slamming tank 100ppm each day with the tech m, and at 18. somthing i think im gonna rip through this tech m on my 120 tank. which i think is gonna be expensive.
My mg is currently at 1440 im gonna dose one more time with 2 part to get into the 1500's and then start slamming tank 100ppm each day with the tech m, and at 18. somthing i think im gonna rip through this tech m on my 120 tank. which i think is gonna be expensive.
LockeOak
New member
I added epsom salts for a while but didn't have a Mg test kit and didn't want to push it too high. Eventually it mostly turned brown/clear except for the holdfasts, looked like I was winning. Then I had to go out of town for a while, when I got back regular water changes diluted the Mg. Now the bryopsis is green again, though not growing very quickly. Got a Mg test kit, current Mg is 1520. I think I'll have to boost it to 1800ppm, I'll do it kind of slowly so as not to shock new livestock.
Also, when it starts to work keep an eye on your overflows, especially if you're using HOB overflows. The teeth of the surface skimmer of mine gets really clogged, raising the display tank water level.
Also, when it starts to work keep an eye on your overflows, especially if you're using HOB overflows. The teeth of the surface skimmer of mine gets really clogged, raising the display tank water level.
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DNA
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I've got the red sea Mg test kit wich only goes up to 1270.
I couldn't find information on how to extend the range, but I could think of three ways. Please inform me of the correct one.
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I added 300oz of Epsom salts to my 300g tank like recommended by this calculator with no success.
My Mg should be up to 1800 now, but I need to find a way to mesure it to be sure.
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chemcalc.html
I couldn't find information on how to extend the range, but I could think of three ways. Please inform me of the correct one.
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I added 300oz of Epsom salts to my 300g tank like recommended by this calculator with no success.
My Mg should be up to 1800 now, but I need to find a way to mesure it to be sure.
http://home.comcast.net/~jdieck1/chemcalc.html
Mykel Obvious
New member
DNA,
looking at the instructions posted on Dr. Foster and Smith's site for Red Sea Magnesium Test Lab, I found the following equation:
Magnesium Concentration (ppm) = Amount of Reagent C used (ml) X 2000
So one full syringe (1 ml) of reagent C should equal 2000 ppm magnesium... .9 ml would be 1800 ppm, etc.
The kit goes until the color changes to the "end" color of blue... when you get to blue, use the equation above to extend the numbers however far you need them to get a reading (for the record, that works out to 40 ppm per .02 ml line on the syringe)... if you have to go to a second syringe to get to the end color, then add 2000 ppm to whatever reading you get from the second syringe... example: .42 ml on second syringe = 840 ppm + 2000 ppm from first syringe for a total of 2840 ppm (a bit high if you ask me :lol: )
HTH
EDIT: Note that most people have only had success using Kent Tech M... Epsom Salt doesn't seem to work for most people
looking at the instructions posted on Dr. Foster and Smith's site for Red Sea Magnesium Test Lab, I found the following equation:
Magnesium Concentration (ppm) = Amount of Reagent C used (ml) X 2000
So one full syringe (1 ml) of reagent C should equal 2000 ppm magnesium... .9 ml would be 1800 ppm, etc.
The kit goes until the color changes to the "end" color of blue... when you get to blue, use the equation above to extend the numbers however far you need them to get a reading (for the record, that works out to 40 ppm per .02 ml line on the syringe)... if you have to go to a second syringe to get to the end color, then add 2000 ppm to whatever reading you get from the second syringe... example: .42 ml on second syringe = 840 ppm + 2000 ppm from first syringe for a total of 2840 ppm (a bit high if you ask me :lol: )
HTH
EDIT: Note that most people have only had success using Kent Tech M... Epsom Salt doesn't seem to work for most people
stevedola
Master of my domain
Im going to start raising my mag with tech m in my fathers' softy tank today. We've been frustrated with bryosis overtaking the tank for 3-4 mths now. I swear it was in the rock when I started the tank and its been spreading with every passing day. Our husbandry is very good but we just cant seem to beat it with WCs, skimming, low feeding and blowing off the rock. This is my last resort before cooking all the rock. This thread has given me alittle hope in an otherwise daunting situation.
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So i have bryopsis once again in my frag tank this time. People say that its not the level of MG in a tank that kills this stuff well i would like to say BULL, I have a 30 gallon tank frang tank that i have dumped a gallon of this tech m and my mg is at 1200 and this stuff is growing like crazy. IF people treating 120 gallon tanks on less then 2 gallons because there MG is already in teh 1500 to begin with then i believe that mg levels need to be high and that a combinattion of high mg and tech kills this stuff(maybe cause its not working for me). IF this stuff does not die in the next few days im going to ramp the mg up with 2 part solutions and see what happens, and if that doesnt work im gonna hit it again with tech m at high levels of mg. This crap is the worst..... but like i said 30 gallon tank and 1 gallon later of tech m raising 100 per day, and manually pulling and brushing this stuff is not dented by it, oh and btw there are no fish in this tank just corals. PLEase help out on this situation. Because i have it in my main tank as well and at this rate its gonna take like 10 gallons of tech m to treat main tank. Ill also keep poeple informed on how my other attempts work out.
So i have bryopsis once again in my frag tank this time. People say that its not the level of MG in a tank that kills this stuff well i would like to say BULL, I have a 30 gallon tank frang tank that i have dumped a gallon of this tech m and my mg is at 1200 and this stuff is growing like crazy. IF people treating 120 gallon tanks on less then 2 gallons because there MG is already in teh 1500 to begin with then i believe that mg levels need to be high and that a combinattion of high mg and tech kills this stuff(maybe cause its not working for me). IF this stuff does not die in the next few days im going to ramp the mg up with 2 part solutions and see what happens, and if that doesnt work im gonna hit it again with tech m at high levels of mg. This crap is the worst..... but like i said 30 gallon tank and 1 gallon later of tech m raising 100 per day, and manually pulling and brushing this stuff is not dented by it, oh and btw there are no fish in this tank just corals. PLEase help out on this situation. Because i have it in my main tank as well and at this rate its gonna take like 10 gallons of tech m to treat main tank. Ill also keep poeple informed on how my other attempts work out.
Avast Marine
.Registered Member
Thanks for everyone that has contributed to this thread. I'll share my experiences:
I have a 400g display and 600g total water volume. I generally keep my Mg high and nutrients low. Never registered any no3 on a kit and po4 .08 measured with hanna. My po4 slips from time to time since I feed heavy, very heavy actually.
I developed a little bryopsis on the rock and overflows about 9 months ago and halve always managed to keep it in check with careful pruning. It has always annoyed me though. I raised my mg with mag flake to 1700 for 2 weeks and my bryopsis actually grew a little more I think. Not wanting to even imagine how much tech-m this was going to take I got 2 gallons just to start with (paypal account was low and thats what I had funds for). Starting mg level was 1200. Since I can add a large dose to my system without changing levels too much I decided to "baste" the bryopsis. Taking a 1" pvc pipe and placing one end on the nastiest patch in my tank (softball size), I carefully poured in 6 cups of tech-m. I turned off all pumps and let it sit for 20 minutes while I cleaned some pumps. Overnight the patch was reduced to golfball size. Day two I did the same thing to the now little patch and it is almost completely gone. I plan to treat it one more time and expect it to be completely eradicated. Hopefully by the end of my 2 gallons I will have hit most of the major spots in my tank and mg level shouldn't get much higher than 1400. I plan to order a few more gallons now to keep on hand and will just start using the basting method to suppliment the tank (which needs to be done regularly anyhow).
Since it is plainly obvious to me that the tech-m is what is killing the stuff and mg is just a handy way to measure the chemical (currently unknown) concentration in the tank I am curious as to what is actually responsible for this joyful bliss. Honestly I don't really care and if it was "Demon Algae Destroyer now with added Magnesium*" I would buy it by the bucket for the rest of my reefing days.
Next, I plan to use the basting method on Valonia and see what happens. I'll report back the results!
I have a 400g display and 600g total water volume. I generally keep my Mg high and nutrients low. Never registered any no3 on a kit and po4 .08 measured with hanna. My po4 slips from time to time since I feed heavy, very heavy actually.
I developed a little bryopsis on the rock and overflows about 9 months ago and halve always managed to keep it in check with careful pruning. It has always annoyed me though. I raised my mg with mag flake to 1700 for 2 weeks and my bryopsis actually grew a little more I think. Not wanting to even imagine how much tech-m this was going to take I got 2 gallons just to start with (paypal account was low and thats what I had funds for). Starting mg level was 1200. Since I can add a large dose to my system without changing levels too much I decided to "baste" the bryopsis. Taking a 1" pvc pipe and placing one end on the nastiest patch in my tank (softball size), I carefully poured in 6 cups of tech-m. I turned off all pumps and let it sit for 20 minutes while I cleaned some pumps. Overnight the patch was reduced to golfball size. Day two I did the same thing to the now little patch and it is almost completely gone. I plan to treat it one more time and expect it to be completely eradicated. Hopefully by the end of my 2 gallons I will have hit most of the major spots in my tank and mg level shouldn't get much higher than 1400. I plan to order a few more gallons now to keep on hand and will just start using the basting method to suppliment the tank (which needs to be done regularly anyhow).
Since it is plainly obvious to me that the tech-m is what is killing the stuff and mg is just a handy way to measure the chemical (currently unknown) concentration in the tank I am curious as to what is actually responsible for this joyful bliss. Honestly I don't really care and if it was "Demon Algae Destroyer now with added Magnesium*" I would buy it by the bucket for the rest of my reefing days.
Next, I plan to use the basting method on Valonia and see what happens. I'll report back the results!
